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Is there any app that can transpose one midi signal by another?

[midi source A note value] + [midi source B note value ] = [output note value]

In practice, it’d probably have to do two further things:

  • prioritise the note on/off values of one, the other, or combination of both, according to a setting (and sampling and holding the last note value of each input)
  • if the two notes are adding, then they’ll end up higher than either, so it’d be nice to bring them back down

I can’t think of any app that allows this to occur. I don’t think it can be done in midi flow, or timid stuff, or midi designer, or, well, anything.

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  • Maybe MidiBridge stream byter. (You would have to ask them it's too complicated for me)

  • ScriptSONIC for sure and Audulus maybe(I didn't delve into midi in side of it) but with some variables and stuff it could be done IMO. I will try both ways and report.

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    ETA: Misunderstood q.

  • With Audulus is doable and pretty straight forward: one midi in is the main pitch modulator for the sound source, then with a math operator(sum, multiply, divide, whatever) or an expression you can easily sum/multiply/divide/etc the first pitch impulse. I don't know how but I know you can, you can cycle the secondary I put to 12 semitones so you can get a quantized pitchbend, specially if you put a slew limiter in between.

    If you know some js code with script sonic it could be even easier. Same process different tools.

  • Sure you can do it with Stream Byter but I'm not sure how either. Do you need it to be in real time? If not, you can probably sort out a way to make a list to import into the MIDIFlow Note Mapper. http://www.midiflow.com/documentation/#import-export-remapping-lists

    Curious to hear what you're doing with this so I hope you find something.

    [midi source A note value] + [midi source B note value ] = [output note value]

    What will happen when two notes add up to more than 127?

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    I’m currently doing it in Adults but not sure how to get it back out as the final transposed product back in MIDI form, to drive other synths with.

  • So far looks like Audulus doesn't have a midi out

  • Except pointing one sequencer to another and changing the note, like for example FugueMachine into StepPolyArp, maybe this would be interesting for you? https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/midi-solfa-mode-go-round/id549623618?mt=8 a solmisation machine (;

  • Fyi Xythesizer is transposed by midi note input also

  • I suppose the simplest way of explaining it is that it is temporally deserialised multi-tape quantum superposition. That should clear things up.

  • @u0421793 said:
    I suppose the simplest way of explaining it is that it is temporally deserialised multi-tape quantum superposition. That should clear things up.

    Nope. And while I liked the sonic madness of the two videos, that didn't really help clarify it either.

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    Yes, I think that’s the thing. In Adults I made four midi inputs, channels 1, 2, 3, 4. In Fugue Machine I set it to four midi outputs, channels 1, 2, 3, 4. These become referred to as A, B, C, D in Adults and there are six combinations available: A+B; A+C; A+D; B+C; B+D; C+D.


    In Adults I made a ‘transposer’ which is essentially a subtractor then an adder — one input has “middle C” subtracted from it (for that is the arbitrary centre of the MIDI range) and then that product is added to the other input.

    Thus, input X notes that are lower than “middle C“ drag input Y lower, if input X is the same as input Y the result is the same, and if input X is higher than input Y it drags it higher. A (hopefully) properly scaled transposition result.

    Therefore I was incorrect up there where I suggested:
    [midi source A note value] + [midi source B note value ] = [output note value]

    It should be
    ([midi source A note value] − “middle C” note value) + [midi source B note value ] = [output note value]


    In Adults I made a quad synth that is essentially four quite simple single sawtooth VCO mono synths. The amplitude envelopes and the VCF envelopes are triggered from OR-ing combinations of input A, B, C or D (I’ve only used four of the six OR combinations).

    Similarly, the VCO frequency is governed not by any single Fugue Machine playhead, but only using a transposer module result (I’ve only used four of the six possible transposer combinations).

    Now, if Fugue Machine could do this by itself!


    Possible improvement areas:

    • Different decisions for what constitutes a note gate — one or both channels (at the moment I’m OR-ing them, I had it set to XOR prior, that’s also useful but less note-dense).
    • Different decisions regarding floor and ceiling of note transpose actions.
    • Possibly different transfer functions or window discriminator choices for those people who like to do that ‘“keep everything in tune” sort of thing.
    • More than two transposing inputs? (Isn’t that just another transposer after the first?)

    Anyway, that’s kept me solidly up for a couple of days, so I’m putting this aside for now. It’s too addictive.


    later edit: I’ve taken out the links to the older videos because the older experiments are not as good a representation of the transposing as the later video, which is now the only one people should go to:

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