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For the experts in Midi Sequencers
Hi,
I'm looking for a step sequencer that would have the following features:
- Ableton-Link tempo sync
- outputs configurable Midi CC (instead of notes)
- One-shot trigger (after receiving a midi cc ) to start a sequence just once
- at least 5 midi cc output at the same time
- OPTIONAL: midi cc value can ramp up or down from step A to step B
Thanks for your suggestions and for sharing your knowledge!
Comments
Uff, I'm no expert, but cykle, Thesys, and Octachron can cover 1, 2, 4, and if I'm understanding you correctly, 5.
3-Thesys' sequencer can be triggered by a MIDI note, with trigger mode set to toggle on/off with each key-press, or only play when a note is held. (It'll start from step 1 with each keypress).
The 3 above can run standalone and have Ableton Link, but they're also MIDI AUs, and when used as AU plugins, the AU host will sync to Ableton Link, and the hosted AUs will follow.
The Rozeta suite, Mozaic, and MIDI Tools are worth a look too, as you can combine them (and other MIDI AUs) in AUM's MIDI matrix to sequence-the-sequencers, etc.
There's also StepPolyArp Unit, though I don't have it. And there's a standalone step sequencer that looks very powerful, called Quantum, but I don't have it either. 🙂
When I hear "MIDI Sequencer", may brain selects the string "Xequence 2".
I cannot comment on the points above, but may @SevenSystems can
Or join the line.. maybe this update will…
Looking forward..
Oscilab is a great sequencer for CCs and can do 4 or 5 (don‘t remember...) per track.
(but you can have many tracks)
https://apps.apple.com/de/app/oscilab/id790213913
The midi part is a bit hidden at the very end of config options, but extremely versatile and easy to use.
It only doesn‘t do the trigger part of your request, but that may not even matter in real world use. Worth checking out...
miRack can do this and a lot more.
Stepbud can do most of the required things. You can turn notes off and just trigger multiple lanes of CC independently. And you can trigger it to start playing with a cc.
I think it might actually do everything you want bar ramping between cc values?
Stepbud
I think octachron mite fit the bill as well.
The only thing that bugs me about Step Bud is it continues to put out Note-Off messages for each step even if you disable sending notes. Other than that I really like it.
LK is outstanding for this kind of thing.
miRack has practically infinite possibilities for this. Lots of learning curve though.
Thanks for the mention 😊 Xequence will not cover 3) and only "half" cover 1), so maybe not the best option.
Quantum?
https://apps.apple.com/de/app/quantum-sequencer/id1207932898
Where can you send midi cc ?
How can you send midi cc with StepBud?
How can you send midi cc with LK?
Find the MIDI button along the bottom button bar. Scroll to the bottom and tap Add New MIDI CC. I usually turn off Sends Modulation, Sends pitch bend, and Sends portamento here while I'm at it. Once you add the CC's there will be buttons added for them at the right of the "Mode" buttons.
What I've never been able to figure out is how to turn off note output without also turning off CC's. People keep saying you can but I've never been successful.
When you're in the piano roll editor for a clip, there's an expandable section at the bottom for editing velocity, pitch bend, etc. There's a plus button at the bottom left. You can select any CC from the dropdown, then edit the CC automation there.
here someone sends midi cc from Oscilab to a bass synth over network, Oscilab start at 1.40 min
track type must be midi, otherwise the assign panel doesn't show
Are you sure youo can output midi cc?
I’m stepbud do as Wim says and you can add as many additional CCs to control as you like. Within reason.
It’ll look something like this when set up:
The “MIDI” button at the bottom is what you’re looking for to add the CCs you want to control.
@wim , on StepBud, long press the number at the top of the step to get the mini menu. Select Edit. Press any notes that are Blue to turn them off. Press Done. The now note free step will show as diagonally shaded.
Absolutely! It's excellent for that.
Nice! Thanks. 👍🏼
Kind of a pain to do for every step, but at least it works. It gets rid of the annoying orphan note-off's as well.
Drambo all day, all night, every breathing second It's even better than a DigiTakt or OctaTrack Shhh....don't tell anybody...
Ooops
Yep. Afaik 16 different CCs per sequencer lane. And quantum can have 6 different sequencer lanes per project. That should be 16x6 = 96 different CCs.
Thanks for the suggestion. I’m actually falling in love with LK.
Do you know if it can run in split screen mode in ios14?
Sorry, can't test. I finally updated all devices to iOS 15. I'm curious why you'd want to run in split screen mode when it's an AU, though?
[edit] It doesn't run in split screen mode in iOS 15, so I'm sure it doesn't in iOS 14 either.
Is that a “yes”? Wow!… Who’d a thought? I’m contemplating learning Ableton now.. Is Drambo
really as capable ?