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Sitala Update 1.2.0

Recently updated Sitala and now it takes several seconds for each of the pad samples to load…screenshot below. Once re-saved, the set loads properly. [EDIT: this appears to be not the case; saved kits still take several seconds to reload.]
This happens each time I load a set. Not looking forward to re-saving my many sets. Anyone else experience this? If so, have you found a solution, aside from re-saving? Thanks.
EDIT: the screenshot represents a single audio file, chopped and only needs to be re-loaded once; the hassle is with different samples for each pad.

Comments

  • In addition, the Browse Samples pane is not responsive to the touch when creating a new kit.

  • Up until the update, accessing a sample folder was almost instantly, but since the update, the access is laggy and today the app even froze a Cubasis project I was working on... Sitala is great, let's hope a fix is coming soon

  • how do i allow sitala to access samples in audioshare? it seems no not be selectable in the sample folder menu

  • Sitala can't see other file providers. Only iPad local folders and iCloud.

  • @JanKun said:
    …Sitala is great, let's hope a fix is coming soon

    Agreed on both counts!

  • @eross said:
    how do i allow sitala to access samples in audioshare? it seems no not be selectable in the sample folder menu

    You can load single samples from AudioShare but you can not 'browse' AudioShare folders on pads. It's an iOS thing and nothing Sitala devs can work around. AudioShare needs to drop the FileProvider Extension and just show its files in directly in The Files.app. That's the only way to 'fix' this...

    I'll tag @scotchi and @luzifer in case they miss this thread...
    ...and only @j_liljedahl knows when the next AudioShare update will arrive...

    Cheers!

  • @Samu said:

    @eross said:
    how do i allow sitala to access samples in audioshare? it seems no not be selectable in the sample folder menu

    You can load single samples from AudioShare but you can not 'browse' AudioShare folders on pads. It's an iOS thing and nothing Sitala devs can work around. AudioShare needs to drop the FileProvider Extension and just show its files in directly in The Files.app. That's the only way to 'fix' this...

    I'll tag @scotchi and @luzifer in case they miss this thread...
    ...and only @j_liljedahl knows when the next AudioShare update will arrive...

    Because of the AudioShare FileProvider extension, other apps can browse the AudioShare files. You just need to enable it in the sidebar if it's not already there.

    For example in PaulStretch:

    So yes, any app dev can do this.

  • @j_liljedahl said:

    So yes, any app dev can do this.

    It is possible to import single samples from AudioShare into Sitala from the AudioShare FileProvider extensions/side-bar but not do the in-line pad-swipe browsing/linking of the samples once a sample has been loaded which is one of Sitalas main features.

    If/when the next AudioShare update drops please do give us an option to disable the file provider extension and show the AudioShare's Documents folder in Files.app as an option. That would solve the 'problem' and allow direct linking to files managed with AudioShare.

    Cheers!

  • @j_liljedahl said:

    @Samu said:

    @eross said:
    how do i allow sitala to access samples in audioshare? it seems no not be selectable in the sample folder menu

    You can load single samples from AudioShare but you can not 'browse' AudioShare folders on pads. It's an iOS thing and nothing Sitala devs can work around. AudioShare needs to drop the FileProvider Extension and just show its files in directly in The Files.app. That's the only way to 'fix' this...

    I'll tag @scotchi and @luzifer in case they miss this thread...
    ...and only @j_liljedahl knows when the next AudioShare update will arrive...

    Because of the AudioShare FileProvider extension, other apps can browse the AudioShare files. You just need to enable it in the sidebar if it's not already there.

    For example in PaulStretch:

    So yes, any app dev can do this.

    That’s what’s weird, some apps have it…

  • edited September 17

    @zilld2017 said:
    Recently updated Sitala and now it takes several seconds for each of the pad samples to load…screenshot below. [...]

    Is this something that you're seeing on iCloud Drive kits (new in this release), or also on kits saved to the iPad?

    Related question: even if this is for a kit on your iPad, are you using / signed in to iCloud Drive? (This is almost certainly in someway linked to our iCloud Drive support, so just trying to see if we can narrow down what cases it's happening in. I'm not around my iPad at the moment to try the different combinations myself.)

  • As mentioned you can import/load individual samples from Audioshare in Sitala…

  • @Samu said:

    @j_liljedahl said:

    So yes, any app dev can do this.

    It is possible to import single samples from AudioShare into Sitala from the AudioShare FileProvider extensions/side-bar but not do the in-line pad-swipe browsing/linking of the samples once a sample has been loaded which is one of Sitalas main features.

    If/when the next AudioShare update drops please do give us an option to disable the file provider extension and show the AudioShare's Documents folder in Files.app as an option. That would solve the 'problem' and allow direct linking to files managed with AudioShare.

    Yes this is the plan. But I don’t understand why? In what way and why is Sitala (or Files app?) treating File Provider extensions differently than ”On My iPad” folders?

  • edited September 17

    @j_liljedahl said:

    Yes this is the plan. But I don’t understand why? In what way and why is Sitala (or Files app?) treating File Provider extensions differently than ”On My iPad” folders?

    That is a question only Apple can answer in detail...

    My guess is that for example iCloud Drive and SMB-Shares are 'mount-points' while Storage Provider Extensions can only pass files one-by-one to the destination app. But that's just my 'guess'.

  • @Samu said:

    @j_liljedahl said:

    Yes this is the plan. But I don’t understand why? In what way and why is Sitala (or Files app?) treating File Provider extensions differently than ”On My iPad” folders?

    That is a question only Apple can answer in detail...

    My guess is that for example iCloud Drive and SMB-Shares are 'mount-points' while Storage Provider Extensions can only pass files one-by-one to the destination app. But that's just my 'guess'.

    So is the difference that in one case you can load a folder instead of a single file? If so there might be something that could be done on the FileProvider side. I haven't looked at that code for years, so there might be new possibilities now. Did you try any other cloud service FileProviders? (Dropbox, googleDrive, oneDrive, etc?)

  • @j_liljedahl said:

    @Samu said:

    @j_liljedahl said:

    Yes this is the plan. But I don’t understand why? In what way and why is Sitala (or Files app?) treating File Provider extensions differently than ”On My iPad” folders?

    That is a question only Apple can answer in detail...

    My guess is that for example iCloud Drive and SMB-Shares are 'mount-points' while Storage Provider Extensions can only pass files one-by-one to the destination app. But that's just my 'guess'.

    So is the difference that in one case you can load a folder instead of a single file? If so there might be something that could be done on the FileProvider side. I haven't looked at that code for years, so there might be new possibilities now. Did you try any other cloud service FileProviders? (Dropbox, googleDrive, oneDrive, etc?)

    Same ’problem’ when using DropBox, Google Drive and One Drive etc.

    Only iCloud works and I strongly suspect it’s not a regular file-provider but a network mount and there is no issues to link to folders on smb-shares mounted in Files.app.

    Other than that I’ve not dug any deeper.

    Cheers!

  • @zilld2017 said:
    Recently updated Sitala and now it takes several seconds for each of the pad samples to load…screenshot below. Once re-saved, the set loads properly.

    Thanks for the heads-up. We have identified where the increased load times are coming from and are currently working on a work-around.

  • Great news! Was going to post about that as well.

  • I've uploaded a build to Apple. I'll DM you guys once it was approved to TestFlight.

  • We've just released a version that should fix these issues. Can those of you that were experiencing problems give it a whirl?

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sitala/id1605657678

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