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AUM + Auria Pro

Is it possible to hit play in Auria and have AUM sync record
without Ableton link using mmc commands from Auria?

Thanks in advance

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  • wimwim
    edited July 2019

    @Gravitas said:
    Is it possible to hit play in Auria and have AUM sync record
    without Ableton link using mmc commands from Auria?

    Thanks in advance

    With AUM hosted inside Auria, or alongside?

    [edit] Alongside, all I could get going was play, not stop or record. But, you could send notes or automation to toggle those I suppose.

  • With AUM along side.

    I've had a look at the midi ctrl section in AUM and
    we could send CC, midi note and PC information
    which AUM could learn but what I need to know is
    if Auria Pro sends MMC format that could be learnt by AUM.

    Cool getting AUM to play with Auria by the way.

    I need to bounce the output of Auria into AudioShare via AUM
    and it needs to be beat accurate for the way I edit and record.

    I can do it with BM3 into AUM which is great using Ableton Link.

    Either way it's all good.

  • @wim

    Okay,
    I've tried the trim and fade function in AudioShare.

    I'll use that for now until I can get both
    programs to record alongside each other.

    I could record AUM master mix back into
    Auria so that maybe my next port of call.

    Nice one.

  • @wim

    Sorted.

    I pulled out my old JL Cooper cuepoint and used
    that instead of phaffing with control messages etc.

    So now when I need MMC I use that.
    Most probably the same thing can achieved using
    a software version but I almost totally forgot I had it.

    Once again thank you.

  • @Gravitas said:

    Cool getting AUM to play with Auria by the way.

    How are you achieving this please ?

  • @zeropoint said:

    @Gravitas said:

    Cool getting AUM to play with Auria by the way.

    How are you achieving this please ?

    Go into Auria Pro midi settings.

    Core midi output

    select send MMC to AUM

    Go into AUM

    Go to ,'MIDI Control', and set receive from ,'AUM destination.

    Make sure tempos match as AUM doesn't follow tempo
    and another thing to note is that AUM doesn't reset back
    to the first beat, first bar.
    You have to do that manually.

  • @Gravitas I am really intrigued by this set up, but I am having difficulty understanding what benefit it brings. Do you only use AUM for recording, building up the track and arrangement with plug-ins in Auria then using AUM for the (multi-channel?) bounce? Is it a situation where both are used for different purposes (AUM and Auria both end up hosting plugs?)

  • @Gravitas ....thank you.

    @tehskwrl - as for me I want to host my synths in AUM because most of them cause Auria to crash when hosted natively. I intend to record them in AUM then drag them into the Auria session.

  • @zeropoint said:
    @Gravitas ....thank you.

    @tehskwrl - as for me I want to host my synths in AUM because most of them cause Auria to crash when hosted natively. I intend to record them in AUM then drag them into the Auria session.

    But then you probably would like to use Cubasis, nanostudio 2 or Xequence to send the MIDI, not Auria.

    At least, I don't realy like to handle MIDI in Auria.
    Any benefit from doing so?

  • @tehskwrl said:
    @Gravitas I am really intrigued by this set up, but I am having difficulty understanding what benefit it brings. Do you only use AUM for recording, building up the track and arrangement with plug-ins in Auria then using AUM for the (multi-channel?) bounce? Is it a situation where both are used for different purposes (AUM and Auria both end up hosting plugs?)

    I originally needed to see if I were to press play in
    Auria Pro if AUM could then record it's own master out
    so I could then import that back into Auria Pro.
    There are much simpler ways to do this now
    that I know both apps much better.

    When creating in Auria Pro, I use AUM for added stability.
    AUM hosts the synths and Auria does everything else.

    I almost always use Auria Pro for my final mixes.
    BM3 is a close second interestingly enough.

  • @Gravitas , I must be missing something as I cannot get AP to launch AUM’s transport.

    I have AP set to send MMC to AUM

    In AUM midi sources I have connected AUM Destination to Midi Control

    In AUM midi control / transport I have receive MMC set to yes.

    Tempo in AUM is set to same as AP session

    Any ideas ? Thanks....

  • @zeropoint said:
    @Gravitas , I must be missing something as I cannot get AP to launch AUM’s transport.

    I have AP set to send MMC to AUM

    In AUM midi sources I have connected AUM Destination to Midi Control

    In AUM midi control / transport I have receive MMC set to yes.

    Tempo in AUM is set to same as AP session

    Any ideas ? Thanks....

    Yep.

    Try changing the MMC device ID to either 0 or 1 in Auria Pro.

    By the way there is a Mackie Hui controller that was set free recently.

    Here's the link.

    https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/minicontrol/id529860371

  • I have gotten AUM/Auria/Xequence2 Transports to start/stop together by the following method:

    The question of controlling Auria’s transport from an external source (like Xequence2) keeps coming up. I seem to have to solve it fresh every time for myself, but it’s not that hard and it works for me. There are three things that have to be true to get X2 to start/stop the Auria transport. First, MidiFlow is required. Second, the sending track in X2 has to have Send Sync Absolute turned on. Third, Auria’s MIDI settings have to be configured to receive MMC and MTC from the chosen MidiFlow virtual output.

    Step by step:
    1. Make sure MidiFlow is open with a lane sending a virtual input (DSIn9) to a virtual output (DSOut9).
    2. Make sure the X2 instrument is sending to DSIn9, and Send Sync Absolute is turned on.
    3. Open the Auria project and go into settings. In the MIDI receive section, find DSOut9 and check RECEIVE MMC, RECEIVE MTC, and RECEIVE NOTES.

    Pressing START on X2 will start the Auria transport, and STOP will stop it. Note that you have to go into Auria manually and set/reset the playhead position, because MMC/MTC doesn’t do that for you.

    Since X2 is controlling the transport, if you open AUM, and both AUM and X2 have Ableton Link on, AUM can also cause start/stop on all three. AUM sends start/stop to X2 via Ableton Link, and the use of Send Sync Absolute in X2 sends MMC/MTC to Auria.

    From this information, perhaps you can get where you want to go.

  • @motmeister

    I don't have X2 or midiflow so I won't be able to try that combination.

    Good to know for the future, I'll keep it in mind.

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