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Hihat samples

BirdpieBirdpie
in Other Music Content

hey guys,

is there a detailed sampled hihat out there as wav? free or paid.
with lets say more than ten variations between closed and open.
same for the snare.
i don't mind loading 1 or more gig per part into a sampler.

cheers!

Comments

  • FingolfinzzFingolfinzz
    edited January 25

    Drumdrops has great multi sample drum packs. The packs are the whole kit but well priced and worth it for acoustic drums. Lots and lots of hat and snare variations. Recorded at a nice volume too so they’re easy to bring into the mix

  • BirdpieBirdpie

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Drumdrops has great multi sample drum packs. The packs are the whole kit but well priced and worth it for acoustic drums. Lots and lots of hat and snare variations

    thanks man, had a look at those. there pretty good, but not want iam looking for.
    i think of 20 or more different stages between closed and open hihat, each with different round robin layer. maybe i record them myself.
    i think you need at least 5 stages just to simulate the crossing between full closed and a little bit open.
    i think i can remember some kontakt (desktop) libraries had crazy detailed stuff.
    i would just need the folders with the wav inside.

  • tahichetahiche

    Just plain curious. Why would you want that level of detail?.

  • BirdpieBirdpie
    edited January 26

    i don't mind having my kick as steady sample ( in a electronic track) but snare and hihat/cymbals can be played/ programmed very alive and funky.as a drummer you can get pretty nerdy about details. maybe nobody else cares.
    i just have nothing to do that on ios, thats all.
    perfect would be just sorted samples.

  • BirdpieBirdpie

    i still layer them with "steady" samples.

  • wimwim
    edited January 26

    yeh, hats are special. I don't have the patience to set up a massive kit for them, but I can see the benefit. Actually what would be amazing is a whole app dedicated to hi-hats with intelligence about articulation, etc.

    btw, Drum Perfect Pro is brilliant for hi-hat realism if you can get your head around the pedal implementation. It achieves great results without a huge number of samples by blending the open and closed samples progressively as the pedal is opened. I would use it all the time for hats if only DPP had the ability to play its AUv3 player via midi. @Gilbert seemed to say this was possible in another thread, but I really don't think it is.

  • BirdpieBirdpie

    i would be fine putting those samples into audiolayer (praise the lord for that tool).
    i just can't see myself having time for record, edit and name those correctly.

  • BirdpieBirdpie
    edited January 26

    @wim said:
    yeh, hats are special. I don't have the patience to set up a massive kit for them, but I can see the benefit. Actually what would be amazing is a whole app dedicated to hi-hats with intelligence about articulation, etc.

    btw, Drum Perfect Pro is brilliant for hi-hat realism if you can get your head around the pedal implementation. It achieves great results without a huge number of samples by blending the open and closed samples progressively as the pedal is opened. I would use it all the time for hats if only DPP had the ability to play its AUv3 player via midi. @Gilbert seemed to say this was possible in another thread, but I really don't think it is.

    i just ask for that a few weeks ago, a riffler for drums.
    think of a meshugga iap

    edit: it has to be auv3, no matter if i program myself or a genuis like riffler does that.

  • wimwim
    edited January 26

    I'm more thinking of something that is only for hi-hats. Not pattern based and not a sequencer. Just a sound module but with some intelligence built in to improve realism, and with support for expression pedal to open and close the hats by degree. Basically what DPP has for hats but with possibly even more articulation intelligence.

  • BirdpieBirdpie
    edited January 26

    @wim said:
    I'm more thinking of something that is only for hi-hats. Not pattern based and not a sequencer, but with some intelligence built in to improve realism, and with support for expression pedal to open and close the hats by degree.

    sounds good. i would even use the touchpad
    to open/close the hihat.
    can you have one finger tapping the hihat and the other open/close it per slide, technically?

  • wimwim
    edited January 26

    @Birdpie said:

    @wim said:
    I'm more thinking of something that is only for hi-hats. Not pattern based and not a sequencer, but with some intelligence built in to improve realism, and with support for expression pedal to open and close the hats by degree.

    sounds good. i would even use the touchpad
    to open/close the hihat.
    can you have one finger tapping the hihat and the other open/close it per slide, technically?

    A touchpad would be very natural in the app, but if it could respond to midi and AUv3 parameter changes any controller could be used, the most "natural" being an expression pedal.

    Don't get the wrong idea. I'm not a developer. Just thinking out loud of what would be useful if anyone ever developed it.

    We'd be most of the way there if DPP's AUv3 player ever can be operated from external MIDI. As it is, if your DAW can accept IAA inputs, DrumPerfect pro can be used very well for this, subject to IAA limitations.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @wim said:
    yeh, hats are special. I don't have the patience to set up a massive kit for them, but I can see the benefit. Actually what would be amazing is a whole app dedicated to hi-hats with intelligence about articulation, etc.

    btw, Drum Perfect Pro is brilliant for hi-hat realism if you can get your head around the pedal implementation. It achieves great results without a huge number of samples by blending the open and closed samples progressively as the pedal is opened. I would use it all the time for hats if only DPP had the ability to play its AUv3 player via midi. @Gilbert seemed to say this was possible in another thread, but I really don't think it is.

    Couldn't this be done with the mod wheel in audiolayer to crossfade between open hi-hat and closed?

  • BirdpieBirdpie

    @espiegel123 said:

    @wim said:
    yeh, hats are special. I don't have the patience to set up a massive kit for them, but I can see the benefit. Actually what would be amazing is a whole app dedicated to hi-hats with intelligence about articulation, etc.

    btw, Drum Perfect Pro is brilliant for hi-hat realism if you can get your head around the pedal implementation. It achieves great results without a huge number of samples by blending the open and closed samples progressively as the pedal is opened. I would use it all the time for hats if only DPP had the ability to play its AUv3 player via midi. @Gilbert seemed to say this was possible in another thread, but I really don't think it is.

    Couldn't this be done with the mod wheel in audiolayer to crossfade between open hi-hat and closed?

    it could be done in different ways in audiolayer, thats not the problem.
    its the amount of work to get that samples.
    or convert them from a kontakt library, which gives me headaches just thinking about it.

  • BirdpieBirdpie

    there have been samples out there for a long time.
    someone got the old spectrasonics drum libraries? i think his its akai, don't know if its available in wav.
    and if its detailed enough.

  • BirdpieBirdpie
    edited January 26

    jonathan delivered a masterpiece with riffler.
    if he would team up with a drummerprogrammer i trust him he could do it.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Birdpie said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @wim said:
    yeh, hats are special. I don't have the patience to set up a massive kit for them, but I can see the benefit. Actually what would be amazing is a whole app dedicated to hi-hats with intelligence about articulation, etc.

    btw, Drum Perfect Pro is brilliant for hi-hat realism if you can get your head around the pedal implementation. It achieves great results without a huge number of samples by blending the open and closed samples progressively as the pedal is opened. I would use it all the time for hats if only DPP had the ability to play its AUv3 player via midi. @Gilbert seemed to say this was possible in another thread, but I really don't think it is.

    Couldn't this be done with the mod wheel in audiolayer to crossfade between open hi-hat and closed?

    it could be done in different ways in audiolayer, thats not the problem.
    its the amount of work to get that samples.
    or convert them from a kontakt library, which gives me headaches just thinking about it.

    i was referring to the technique @wim mentioned of interpolating between open and closed hat with a controller.

  • JanKunJanKun

    @Birdpie said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Drumdrops has great multi sample drum packs. The packs are the whole kit but well priced and worth it for acoustic drums. Lots and lots of hat and snare variations

    thanks man, had a look at those. there pretty good, but not want iam looking for.
    i think of 20 or more different stages between closed and open hihat, each with different round robin layer. maybe i record them myself.
    i think you need at least 5 stages just to simulate the crossing between full closed and a little bit open.
    i think i can remember some kontakt (desktop) libraries had crazy detailed stuff.
    i would just need the folders with the wav inside.

    Drumdrops doesn't seem to be what you're looking for but I just wanted to add some precisions about some of their multi velocity libraries (the older ones) cause I think their hi-hats are very detailed. here is list of hi-hat articulations for their Motown pack but all the old kits follow the same articulation structures. Those hi-hats come with 12 velocity layers and some kits also include 3 round robins.

    .

  • TimRussellTimRussell

    Why not set up a mic and record a real hi-hat?

  • kirmesteggnokirmesteggno

    @Birdpie said:
    there have been samples out there for a long time.
    someone got the old spectrasonics drum libraries? i think his its akai, don't know if its available in wav.
    and if its detailed enough.

    You might be able to find them here: https://old.reddit.com/r/jungle/comments/199e0mz/buttload_of_old_sample_cds_to_download/

  • BirdpieBirdpie

    @JanKun said:

    @Birdpie said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Drumdrops has great multi sample drum packs. The packs are the whole kit but well priced and worth it for acoustic drums. Lots and lots of hat and snare variations

    thanks man, had a look at those. there pretty good, but not want iam looking for.
    i think of 20 or more different stages between closed and open hihat, each with different round robin layer. maybe i record them myself.
    i think you need at least 5 stages just to simulate the crossing between full closed and a little bit open.
    i think i can remember some kontakt (desktop) libraries had crazy detailed stuff.
    i would just need the folders with the wav inside.

    Drumdrops doesn't seem to be what you're looking for but I just wanted to add some precisions about some of their multi velocity libraries (the older ones) cause I think their hi-hats are very detailed. here is list of hi-hat articulations for their Motown pack but all the old kits follow the same articulation structures. Those hi-hats come with 12 velocity layers and some kits also include 3 round robins.

    .

    thanks alot, will check that out.

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo

    @JanKun said:

    @Birdpie said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Drumdrops has great multi sample drum packs. The packs are the whole kit but well priced and worth it for acoustic drums. Lots and lots of hat and snare variations

    thanks man, had a look at those. there pretty good, but not want iam looking for.
    i think of 20 or more different stages between closed and open hihat, each with different round robin layer. maybe i record them myself.
    i think you need at least 5 stages just to simulate the crossing between full closed and a little bit open.
    i think i can remember some kontakt (desktop) libraries had crazy detailed stuff.
    i would just need the folders with the wav inside.

    Drumdrops doesn't seem to be what you're looking for but I just wanted to add some precisions about some of their multi velocity libraries (the older ones) cause I think their hi-hats are very detailed. here is list of hi-hat articulations for their Motown pack but all the old kits follow the same articulation structures. Those hi-hats come with 12 velocity layers and some kits also include 3 round robins.

    .

    I’ve been thinking about using FAC Drums or Sitala and maybe some midi filtering if necessary for an all Hi-Hat articulation instance.

  • BirdpieBirdpie
    edited January 29

    @JanKun said:

    @Birdpie said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Drumdrops has great multi sample drum packs. The packs are the whole kit but well priced and worth it for acoustic drums. Lots and lots of hat and snare variations

    thanks man, had a look at those. there pretty good, but not want iam looking for.
    i think of 20 or more different stages between closed and open hihat, each with different round robin layer. maybe i record them myself.
    i think you need at least 5 stages just to simulate the crossing between full closed and a little bit open.
    i think i can remember some kontakt (desktop) libraries had crazy detailed stuff.
    i would just need the folders with the wav inside.

    Drumdrops doesn't seem to be what you're looking for but I just wanted to add some precisions about some of their multi velocity libraries (the older ones) cause I think their hi-hats are very detailed. here is list of hi-hat articulations for their Motown pack but all the old kits follow the same articulation structures. Those hi-hats come with 12 velocity layers and some kits also include 3 round robins.

    .

    there are two available:
    motown drumdrops ~ 230mb
    and
    motown drumdrops kit ~ 13gb

    are those lists online available?

  • JanKunJanKun
    edited January 30

    @Birdpie said:

    @JanKun said:

    @Birdpie said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Drumdrops has great multi sample drum packs. The packs are the whole kit but well priced and worth it for acoustic drums. Lots and lots of hat and snare variations

    thanks man, had a look at those. there pretty good, but not want iam looking for.
    i think of 20 or more different stages between closed and open hihat, each with different round robin layer. maybe i record them myself.
    i think you need at least 5 stages just to simulate the crossing between full closed and a little bit open.
    i think i can remember some kontakt (desktop) libraries had crazy detailed stuff.
    i would just need the folders with the wav inside.

    Drumdrops doesn't seem to be what you're looking for but I just wanted to add some precisions about some of their multi velocity libraries (the older ones) cause I think their hi-hats are very detailed. here is list of hi-hat articulations for their Motown pack but all the old kits follow the same articulation structures. Those hi-hats come with 12 velocity layers and some kits also include 3 round robins.

    .

    there are two available:
    motown drumdrops ~ 230mb
    and
    motown drumdrops kit ~ 13gb

    are those lists online available?

    I own most of their old kits (multi sample versions). The motown kit at 13gb is probably the whole sample pack which contain everything, meaning every sample and version of this kit they ever made ( drum replacement pack included and all samples with separate mic samples and up to 5 round robins for their discontinued Kontakt library). That's overkill should you ask me but maybe close to what you're looking for.

    The one I got was the multi sample pack which contains a blend of all mics for each sample velocity (up to 30) with 3 round robins each. That's already a whole bunch of samples. Size is 4.5 GB unzipped.
    The articulation mapping list excerpt I attached previously comes with the pack. I am not sure it is available on line.
    Hope it helps

  • BirdpieBirdpie

    @JanKun said:

    @Birdpie said:

    @JanKun said:

    @Birdpie said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Drumdrops has great multi sample drum packs. The packs are the whole kit but well priced and worth it for acoustic drums. Lots and lots of hat and snare variations

    thanks man, had a look at those. there pretty good, but not want iam looking for.
    i think of 20 or more different stages between closed and open hihat, each with different round robin layer. maybe i record them myself.
    i think you need at least 5 stages just to simulate the crossing between full closed and a little bit open.
    i think i can remember some kontakt (desktop) libraries had crazy detailed stuff.
    i would just need the folders with the wav inside.

    Drumdrops doesn't seem to be what you're looking for but I just wanted to add some precisions about some of their multi velocity libraries (the older ones) cause I think their hi-hats are very detailed. here is list of hi-hat articulations for their Motown pack but all the old kits follow the same articulation structures. Those hi-hats come with 12 velocity layers and some kits also include 3 round robins.

    .

    there are two available:
    motown drumdrops ~ 230mb
    and
    motown drumdrops kit ~ 13gb

    are those lists online available?

    I own most of their old kits (multi sample versions). The motown kit at 13gb is probably the whole sample pack which contain everything, meaning every sample and version of this kit they ever made ( drum replacement pack included and all samples with separate mic samples and up to 5 round robins for their discontinued Kontakt library). That's overkill should you ask me but maybe close to what you're looking for.

    The one I got was the multi sample pack which contains a blend of all mics for each sample velocity (up to 30) with 3 round robins each. That's already a whole bunch of samples. Size is 4.5 GB unzipped.
    The articulation mapping list excerpt I attached previously comes with the pack. I am not sure it is available on line.
    Hope it helps

    drumdrops did it for me, thanks alot!

  • FingolfinzzFingolfinzz

    :)

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