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Is Apple finally breaking IAA?
Has anyone experienced this warped view in Samplr?
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Is it only Samplr + does it happen each time you load it?
If it finally forces bias fx to keep the years-old promise of going AUv3, then I’m almost fine with that…
Only Samplr. It takes deleting and recreating Samplr track to make it go back to normal but it does affect Samplr standalone. It’s never happened before I started using Loopy Pro which makes me wonder which of the apps is at fault?
I’ve seen this happen in AUM before but only if I don’t open Samplr first. I’ve seen similar weirdness with some Lumbeat stuff too but making sure I launch them before loading in AUM seems to fix it.
We see graphic problems with other IAA apps in iPadOS 16. Loading Animoog as IAA from AUM means the Animoog screen is completely corrupted. It works fine if Animoog is loaded first, before connecting to AUM.
Apple ...
Have you seen this post related to SynthMaster2?
First start Samplr, then load it as an IAA in AUM, this works for me.
Yeah, I think we're slowly approaching Android territory here regarding OS version / device compatibility nightmares... (my last Android development was 5 years ago... maybe it's actually gotten better there?)
This works for plug in spinning around and not loading but not with the graphic weirdness.
It is unlikely that the graphic anomaly is related to IAA.
^this.
Agreed. Broken IAA would likely manifest itself in different ways than this.
What do you think it is related to?
How the app adapts its interface to different screen sizes/resolution? Or how the os is reporting information about the graphics port.
Does it sometimes draw correctly on that device?
More likely due to some change in graphics libraries. What version of iOS are you on @supadom, and can you remember if the problem began near the time of an OS upgrade, or change to a different device?
Some graphics issues also get sorted out with updates.
iPadOS16.1 had some pretty weird graphics glitches that got partially fixed in 16.2 and are now fully fixed in 16.3.
Many older apps are not optimized or adapted the new screen sizes since those screen sizes were not present when the apps were initially developed and there's no way to good/fool-proof method to 'future proof' the full layout of an app...
The best would be to get in touch with the developer of SMPLR and ask if he's still interested in keeping the app up-to-date.
IAAs still work OK as long as they are launched prior to making any connections to them...
The 'real' sign of the end of IAA support will be when IAA support is removed from GarageBand
Yes it does. In fact it did up until I was using it in AB3. @wim Then I switched to LP around the same time as I upgraded to iOS 16 it’s hard to disentangle the two but I haven’t had this problem with AB3, ever.
@Samu yes I’ve gotten in touch with @Marcos but I have a feeling he’s given up on the app as the last follow up email I sent him bounced back. I wouldn’t be surprised although he’s always maintained he’d support IAA version and would eventually go AUV3 but I’m not holding my breath.
IAA apps are standalone apps running in their own windowing system. They don't run in the host app.
If you reboot your iPad and launch SamplR does it look right?
You may be onto something.
I forgot that even though IAA apps and hosts are separate standalone apps there is actually graphic interaction because IAA can show the "app switcher" toolbar thingy that can let you switch to the host and start/stop it if both the host and the app support it.
Audiobus doesn't implement the IAA switcher, instead using its own toolbar. Loopy Pro and other hosts do.
So ... totally backtracking here. Apple could have broken the IAA switcher, which means it could be IAA related after all, and is likely not to be fixed.
You may have exposed the beginning of the end.
It would be interesting to see if @Michael has any IAA toolbar support code in Loopy Pro, and if so if temporarily removing it in a beta build has any effect.
The standalone when not associated with any host loads fine. In fact even without rebooting. It gets warped if I start LP without S being open in the background but once I’ve killed S once then I need to start S, start LP then kill S and start S again for it to work correctly.
I guess I just need to stop myself from closing S, like ever. This way it will open correctly every time,at least that’s what I think.
I read a while ago that he's become an Apple employee, and employees are not allowed to sell in the AppStore. So I think he's firewalled from working on his own app.
Have you tried starting S stand-alone before trying to use LP? Instead of trying to start it from LP first? This would be the preferred procedure. LP should be able to connect with the running app with no problem.
Incidentally, the problem I mentioned with Animoog was a completely trashed screen, showing a few characters and some meaningless colored rectangles. Starting the app first allowed it to initialize its graphics correctly, before trying to communicate using the IAA protocol.
The return to host icon > @uncledave said:
He started working at Apple ages ago and the last couple of updates happened while he was there.
If someone lets him know about the issue, he’ll probably take a look.
He’s probably working for NASA now but all I care is Samplr living another year. Maybe it’s just an obsession at this point.
Anyways, panic over!
I think he's still at Apple and part of the deal if I recall correctly was that he was allowed to maintain his apps...
iBassist too.
Fix state
That was a joke @Samu 😊😇