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BlueTooth Headphones and lag (delay) with touchscreen input

I got myself a pair of JBL T450BT Bluetooth headphones and I experience an annoying lag/ delay while playing with knob, slider and onscreen keyboard. Do I something wrong. Is there a solution for this input/ lag? Or has this to do with iOS 11 or should I buy a more expensive Bluetooth headphone that has better bluetooth build in. Any suggestions are welcome.

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  • I think it just comes with the territory. Bluetooth has some latency.

  • Yes, you need to buy a bluetooth wire in order to get rid of that delay.

  • @mrufino1 said:
    Yes, you need to buy a bluetooth wire in order to get rid of that delay.

    Which kinda defies the point ;)

  • Yeah, to me, Bluetooth audio is fine for listening to music, but it can't be a one-size-fits-all audio solution until the latency is further reduced. I did some light research and it looks like the best-case scenario is latency in the 30-40 millisecond range. That's consistent with my expectations - perception of latency varies from person to person, and depends on what you are doing, but most people can perceive latency in excess of 20-30 milliseconds.

    In music-making, where a HUGE chunk of the experience is the dynamic touch and response you get from asking for a note and hearing it in return, even a subtle amount of latency can really trash the experience.

  • Okay, thanks for all your response. @StormJH1 so what I understand bluetooth is just no for iOS and musicians that use BT headphones. The latency is just too big. So seems bluetooth is not there (yet). I will probably retrun this one and stick to my CX-05 headphones.

  • edited January 2018

    Yeah Bluetooth is not practical for music making. It never has been

  • ;) > @supadom said:

    @mrufino1 said:
    Yes, you need to buy a bluetooth wire in order to get rid of that delay.

    Which kinda defies the point ;)

    Yes, I was trying to be funny, forgot to use this guy... ;)

    Bluetooth is convenient for listening to things on the go but not for production yet. Someday it may be but not now. Many bluetooth headphones also have an 1/8" jack so they can be wired headphones.

    I have one of these :
    AROUSE Bluetooth Receiver 4.1 Wireless Audio Receiver Headphone Adapter with 3.5mm AUX Jack Hands-Free Calling for iPhone 8/7 Plus,Galaxy,Corded Headsets,Headphones,Earbuds,Home Stereo Speakers,Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075V8XGPP?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

    Which is great because it allows any headphones to be bluetooth. I use it with my custom in ears all the time, as well as the apple earbuds and my akg and Sony headphones.

  • @mrufino1 said:
    ;) > @supadom said:

    @mrufino1 said:
    Yes, you need to buy a bluetooth wire in order to get rid of that delay.

    Which kinda defies the point ;)

    Yes, I was trying to be funny, forgot to use this guy... ;)

    Bluetooth is convenient for listening to things on the go but not for production yet. Someday it may be but not now. Many bluetooth headphones also have an 1/8" jack so they can be wired headphones.

    I have one of these :
    AROUSE Bluetooth Receiver 4.1 Wireless Audio Receiver Headphone Adapter with 3.5mm AUX Jack Hands-Free Calling for iPhone 8/7 Plus,Galaxy,Corded Headsets,Headphones,Earbuds,Home Stereo Speakers,Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075V8XGPP?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

    Which is great because it allows any headphones to be bluetooth. I use it with my custom in ears all the time, as well as the apple earbuds and my akg and Sony headphones.

    Very much thanks for this suggestion :) Now I wil my return JBL headphones for certain

  • Yamaha have released low latency, wireless headphones for musicians. Expensive, and not portable though…

  • edited July 2023

    Wireless audio with the minimum physically possible latency is rather trivial and cheap. I mentioned it in another thread. Get a mini analog broadcast FM radio transmitter that plugs into the headphone jack (if you still have one), and then get headphones with an integrated broadcast FM radio receiver. Problem solved!

  • Definitely! BlueTooth midi works very well already, so much so that I’m reluctant to get anything new without it.

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