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Thor MIDI Learn?

Hi there, thor is the synth that actually I kwon better, the only problem is that I can't find a way to assing midi controls to sliders and encoders.
There is a way to assign midi controls to any knob and slider?

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  • Hey if you find an answer let me know or even if you find a list of what cc's are assigned would be helpful. I have an axion 49 2nd gen and some of the knobs and faders work but it is random at best.

  • Thor does not implement a learn function, but it has many CCs mapped to the usual suspects and some not so usual (like filter type - not very musical to twiddle that one!).

    Somebody posted the CC list here IIRC. But search is not finding it. I did just happen to DL it into GoodReader though. I'll paste the text here:

    Controller CC’s iPad Thor
    0
    1
    2
    4 Mixer OSC 1+2 slider
    5 portamento
    6
    7 master volume
    8 mixer balance
    9 amp decay
    10 pan
    11
    12 delay dry/wet
    13 chorus dry/wet
    14 filt attack
    15 filt decay
    16 filt sus
    17 filt release
    18 delay time
    19 mixer OSC 3 slider
    20 OSC 1 5th knob
    21 OSC 1 OCT
    22 OSC 1 semi
    23 OSC 1 tune
    24 OSC 1 type
    25 delay feedback
    26 LFO 1 rate
    27 LFO 1 delay
    28 LFO 1 waveform
    29 LFO 1 kbd follow
    30 LFO 1 key sync
    31 LFO 1 tempo sync
    32 mod 1 source amount
    33 mod 2 source amount
    34 mod 3 source amount
    35 mod 4 source amount
    36 mod 5 source amount
    37
    38
    39 pitch bend range
    40 mod 6 source amount
    41 mod 7 source amount
    42 mod 8 source amount
    43 mod 9 source amount
    44 mod 10 source amount
    45 mod 11 source amount
    46 mod 12 source amount
    47 mod 13 source amount
    48 osc 3 5th knob
    49 osc 3 oct
    50 osc 3 semi
    51 osc 3 tune
    52 osc 3 type
    53 osc 3 bw
    54 osc 3 sync
    55 chorus delay
    56 filt 2 kbd
    57 filt 3 type
    58 filt 3 cutoff
    59 filt 3 res
    60 filt 3 kbd
    61 rotary 1
    62 rotary 2
    63 button 1
    64
    65 portamento toggle
    66 amp sus
    67 button 2
    68 keyboard modes
    69 seq toggle 1
    70 seq toggle 2
    71 filt 1 res
    72 amp release
    73 amp attack
    74 filt 1 cutoff
    75 filt 2 to amp
    76 filt 1 type
    77 filt 1 kbd
    78 filt 2 res
    79 filt 2 cutoff
    80 shaper router
    81 shaper toggle
    82 shaper drive
    83 chorus feedback
    84 shaper type
    85 delay rate
    86 delay amount
    87 mod attack
    88 mod decay
    89 filt 2 type
    90 mod release
    91 mod loop toggle
    92 global loop toggle
    93 chorus amount
    94 osc 2 type
    95 osc 2 5th knob
    96
    97
    98
    99
    100
    101
    102 osc 2 oct
    103 osc 2 semi
    104 osc 2 tune
    105 osc 2 bw
    106 osc 2 sync
    107 seq rate
    108 osc 1 am
    109 LFO 2 tempo sync
    110 LFO 2 rate
    111 LFO 2 waveform
    112 LFO 2 delay
    113 LFO 2 key sync
    114 global delay
    115 global attack
    116 global hold
    117 global decay
    118 global sus
    119 global release
    120
    121
    122
    123
    124
    125
    126
    127
    128
    129

  • aargh! Lost the newline formatting. Each line begins with a number if you have the patience.

    Anybody know how to attach a file to a comment?

  • MidiBridge to the rescue when learn is absent, btw. If your controller is short on patches or difficult to program.

  • Thanks for the list. I have 9 sliders and 9 knobs on my axiom with 20 banks and then 9 sliders and knobs on my nanokontrol with 4 banks. I should be able to control them all. Hahaha.

  • bwaa-haha! Ditto my Graphite + nanos + Quneo. Knobby Heaven:)

  • Thank you very much @dwarman.
    Before buying midi bridge I should see If I can change directly the midi values from my master key! ;)

  • I thought about mapping all the knobs and buttons to a hardware button. I am still new to synths and was wondering if there was a top list of parameters to map to start off with learning a synth?

  • Awesome. Now somebody needs to convert the thor section to a nktrl data file so I can upload it to my nanokontrol.

  • Thor MIDI Controller Chart:
    https://app.box.com/s/bg3ham5uyaj4wa3vjobr
    I modified Reason's manual to include only Thor.I hope the same CC's apply to the ipad version!

  • Has anybody a pdf version of the Thor web-page manual?

  • I have an MPK Mini. How could I effectively use it's 8 CC knobs to control Thor?

  • If you can edit the cc values on the MPK then you just need to edit them to send the correct cc message to the corresponding control in Thor.

    I have a nanoKontrol. It is just time consuming to program every knob, fader, and button.

  • But I also want to control Turnado with CCs 1-8.

  • It seems the MPK has multiple programs. Set one program to transmit on one midi channel for Turnado and then set another one to transmit on a different channel for thor. Then you just switch between the different programs to control each app independently.

    I hope that makes sense.

  • edited January 2014

    @Dramatispersona13 said:

    Has anybody a pdf version of the Thor web-page manual?

    A quick (and a bit rough) conversion with WEB to PDF app. Sadly, it doesn't keep the hyperlinks.

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62363308/Thor - Web Manual.pdf

  • @dwarman said:

    Controller CC’s iPad Thor

    • 0
    • 1
    • 2
    • 4 Mixer OSC 1+2 slider
    • 5 portamento
    • 6
    • 7 master volume
    • 8 mixer balance
    • 9 amp decay
    • 10 pan
    • 11
    • 12 delay dry/wet
    • 13 chorus dry/wet
    • 14 filt attack
    • 15 filt decay
    • 16 filt sus
    • 17 filt release
    • 18 delay time
    • 19 mixer OSC 3 slider
    • 20 OSC 1 5th knob
    • 21 OSC 1 OCT
    • 22 OSC 1 semi
    • 23 OSC 1 tune
    • 24 OSC 1 type
    • 25 delay feedback
    • 26 LFO 1 rate
    • 27 LFO 1 delay
    • 28 LFO 1 waveform
    • 29 LFO 1 kbd follow
    • 30 LFO 1 key sync
    • 31 LFO 1 tempo sync
    • 32 mod 1 source amount
    • 33 mod 2 source amount
    • 34 mod 3 source amount
    • 35 mod 4 source amount
    • 36 mod 5 source amount
    • 37
    • 38
    • 39 pitch bend range
    • 40 mod 6 source amount
    • 41 mod 7 source amount
    • 42 mod 8 source amount
    • 43 mod 9 source amount
    • 44 mod 10 source amount
    • 45 mod 11 source amount
    • 46 mod 12 source amount
    • 47 mod 13 source amount
    • 48 osc 3 5th knob
    • 49 osc 3 oct
    • 50 osc 3 semi
    • 51 osc 3 tune
    • 52 osc 3 type
    • 53 osc 3 bw
    • 54 osc 3 sync
    • 55 chorus delay
    • 56 filt 2 kbd
    • 57 filt 3 type
    • 58 filt 3 cutoff
    • 59 filt 3 res
    • 60 filt 3 kbd
    • 61 rotary 1
    • 62 rotary 2
    • 63 button 1
    • 64
    • 65 portamento toggle
    • 66 amp sus
    • 67 button 2
    • 68 keyboard modes
    • 69 seq toggle 1
    • 70 seq toggle 2
    • 71 filt 1 res
    • 72 amp release
    • 73 amp attack
    • 74 filt 1 cutoff
    • 75 filt 2 to amp
    • 76 filt 1 type
    • 77 filt 1 kbd
    • 78 filt 2 res
    • 79 filt 2 cutoff
    • 80 shaper router
    • 81 shaper toggle
    • 82 shaper drive
    • 83 chorus feedback
    • 84 shaper type
    • 85 delay rate
    • 86 delay amount
    • 87 mod attack
    • 88 mod decay
    • 89 filt 2 type
    • 90 mod release
    • 91 mod loop toggle
    • 92 global loop toggle
    • 93 chorus amount
    • 94 osc 2 type
    • 95 osc 2 5th knob
    • 96
    • 97
    • 98
    • 99
    • 100
    • 101
    • 102 osc 2 oct
    • 103 osc 2 semi
    • 104 osc 2 tune
    • 105 osc 2 bw
    • 106 osc 2 sync
    • 107 seq rate
    • 108 osc 1 am
    • 109 LFO 2 tempo sync
    • 110 LFO 2 rate
    • 111 LFO 2 waveform
    • 112 LFO 2 delay
    • 113 LFO 2 key sync
    • 114 global delay
    • 115 global attack
    • 116 global hold
    • 117 global decay
    • 118 global sus
    • 119 global release
    • 120
    • 121
    • 122
    • 123
    • 124
    • 125
    • 126
    • 127
    • 128
    • 129

    what a mess, but better than nothing :)

  • Which synths do have midi learn for parameters such as frequency, resonance, etc.? I think Magellan, but on startup after mapping it seemed to lose the path.

  • I really hope they bring midi learn. All of the serious ios synths have it. If I program my mpk mini to control Thor then I'll have to midi relearn all of my other synths. Come on Propellerheads!

  • @supadom I used to have a MPK Mini but I forgot, does the editor let you save multiple profiles?

  • @supadom, alternatively you could use the MidiBridge Holy Mapper function to map your normal MPK CC assignments for Thor. Useful now MB has config save functions.

  • edited August 2014

    @CalCutta One either would have to load a profile via PC before using it with thor or possibly use a different midi channel with knobs set to specific cc's. Yes midi Bridge is an option but yet another thing to think about. Thor is definitely a great sounding machine and I'm sure one day gets to be a complete synth solution. It is very versatile but totally misses out on the connectivity front. It is a similar situation to imini which I love yet never use live because of it being abandoned.
    I'm happy to have it in the cloud and look forward to the next update.

  • I have been in constant contact with the developers asking about update for Thor, all I got is we working on it. I also think Thor is a powerful synth but due to its lack of features it always get pass by. I don't understand why Thor don't have midi mapping as yet , users been asking for this a long time now. As we touch on Thor I would also talk about Figure, another powerful app but lacking a full ipad version with landscape mode.
    Let's hope they could get it together and start a process of timely update for their Apps.

  • ^ sometimes it feels like Propellerheads made Thor as a proof of concept, and once they finished it, they didn't want to pour resources into it.

    MIDI learn, half-assed IAA, and preset organization are just some of the things I wish would be fixed. It's a pretty amazing synth, I actually ran through ALL of the Thor tutorials with the iPad version to get a handle on it, but it deserves better than the treatment it's been given up to this point by Propellerheads. Work arounds, including having to use a third-party app, are unnecessary when something is properly developed and supported.

  • Sadly, I find myself going to Tera or Z3TA as my go-to synths, because they just work. It's a shame, because Thor has the ability to be just as powerful (more, actually), but if I can't make it play nice with others, then it's going to just sit there and gather virtual dust.

  • @fjcblanco said:

    @Dramatispersona13 said:

    Has anybody a pdf version of the Thor web-page manual?

    A quick (and a bit rough) conversion with WEB to PDF app. Sadly, it doesn't keep the hyperlinks.

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62363308/Thor - Web Manual.pdf

    link is dead.Anybody else with the pdf here?

  • @Crabman said:

    link is dead.Anybody else with the pdf here?

    I made one for my own use, but I'm happy to share. You'll want to use the PDF bookmarks to navigate as the hyperlinks jump to the online HTML manual.

    https://app.box.com/thor-manual

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