Audiobus: Use your music apps together.
What is Audiobus? — Audiobus is an award-winning music app for iPhone and iPad which lets you use your other music apps together. Chain effects on your favourite synth, run the output of apps or Audio Units into an app like GarageBand or Loopy, or select a different audio interface output for each app. Route MIDI between apps — drive a synth from a MIDI sequencer, or add an arpeggiator to your MIDI keyboard — or sync with your external MIDI gear. And control your entire setup from a MIDI controller.
Download on the App StoreAudiobus is the app that makes the rest of your setup better.
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I’m sure it will settle down. Lots of excitement after the long wait no doubt.
Yeah. It’s only human nature for some to get defensive over a product. Sure if we keep calm and have a few laughs, all will be well in the land
I don’t really see it that way. There’s robust discussion between users and stuff is getting clarified and refined without the developer having to engage in every single discussion or to make decisions in a vacuum. Disagreeing is healthy for flushing out details.
Yes, some of the people who have been beta testing and waiting for this release a zillion years seem a little defensive and over-resistant to change. I kind of get that, even though I let my annoyance at that attitude get the better of me too often.
The developer, on the other hand is very open minded, and really just seeks clarification rather than taking any stance.
My admittedly uninformed opinion is internal support for hosting IAA apps will never be there. And I hope he sticks to that.
Yes, AB and IAA are joined at the hip, but there are two distinct aspects to IAA. Being hosted, and hosting. Personally, I hope that the developer does not open the door to hosting IAA internally, does allow NS2 to be hosted in AB (and IAA if needed).
Think of apps like GR-16 and KEW. They can be loaded into hosts, but host nothing themselves. I kind of hope that NS2 takes that approach (albeit with AUv3 internal hosting).
Clamoring for internal IAA hosting will be greatly reduced as long as it’s still possible to get the audio from IAA apps into NS2 live by other direct methods such as AB or IAA.
Excellent information and perspective. I'm with you on this but haven't paid for it yet. I'll use this for my excuse until a future credit card cycle. I just got busted for the Black Friday Madness.
"I bought myself Christmas Presents. No need to wrap them." She's still obligated to buy me something... so, "I'll take Bluetooth MIDI Keyboard for $129 Alex." Form your answer as a question.
"What music hardware can you NOT live without in 2019?"
Well, even though I almost never agree with you, at least we got you trained enough not to call something like this a “bug” anymore.
@wim @Fruitbat1919 right on!
I actually hope NS2 goes supernova and pulls every other iOS DAW up by its breeches. It looks like a great achievement so bring on the celebrations!
Oh, and all aboard the AU train!
@wim, this is just because it is no bug
Contrary to bugs we spoke earlier about
Anyway, have fun!
You can load Rozetta plug-ins right into NS2.> @echoopera said:
Ah-ha! Good to know.
I just read a bunch of posts over there and it seems like people are behaving like they’ve had too much coffee and too little sleep. Pretty spikey for now.
@gusgranite it’s getting out of hand over there.
Aww, they’re just having fun...
Hey guys. I understand, it's been a rather hectic week for many of us in NS2 land. Hard to keep up but everything is being noted whether or not directly acknowledged. And certainly know nobody intends to come off brash or unappreciative.
Honestly the AB guys here have been among the most connected and helpful from what I have seen. That includes suggestions and notes for improvements.
I made it to the end of the thread! what do I get what do I get?!
That's not the end of the thread... this is. You get what's behind curtain #3.
Hey wim! I’m sorry you feel that way I appologize if I have come off as defensive. I hope you will believe me that I was really trying to be helpful, not defensive. I’ve re-read my post several times and I don’t get what offended you about it. If you care to explain more, please do. Your opinions about AUv3 are valid, and so are mine. There was a lot of time spent working with Auv3 apps and a lot of headaches involved. I’m not defending or accusing anyone with what I said, just noting different implementation (problem starting with Apple’s poor documentation - I blame Apple!) causing headaches for the host. I don’t see it as passing the buck but I respect your opinion about it and won’t push it. Since I failed to add anything useful with that post, I’ll just pipe down and add no more about AUv3. Or NS2. I was only posting on this forum in an attempt to be of help, but now that the app is out, my help isn’t needed. It is really no matter to me. I don’t need to post on forums and will be dropping off of this one for the most part. I’ll try to check back on this thread to see if you are not satisfied with my appology. Do I need to buy you a beer or something? I’m game. I live in the LA area. Any chance your local?
@Slam_Cut You’ve been really helpful. Thank you, and sorry to see you go if you do.
I'm late to the party here so you might already know this but you can actually save a set of AUv3 Macros as the default for a given AUv3. It's in the hamburger menu somewheres.
Yep. It'll adjust by the unit you've set it GRID. If you want to freely adjust it, turn off the "grid snap".
It's pretty fast in practice. Tap and "Render to file" is a cool idea though. Maybe mention it at the NS forum?
Maybe Thor but that's a bit of stretch. I picked that one because it's one of the few other iOS synths that offer multiple, diverse types of oscillators.
For reals. It's not all that unlike NS1 in that way.
It was sorta funny (ok, and a bit disheartening) reading angryish posts from people complaining about the release delay as if anyone on earth wanted it to be released more than Matt did (other than his family, maybe!). It's a massive project and seems he's just thorough af.
Think you'll need to mixdown whatever section you want to put through effectrix and then use something like AB3+Audioshare or AUM to both process and capture the processed version to bring back into NS.
Or just automate the built in FX in real time like Effectrix does.
FWIW, automation lanes (and/or subsections of them) can be copied and pasted. You could make a send or insert track with a stack of effects similar to effectrix and then create some automation patterns on the timeline to automate them. Then, you can copy and paste those patterns as needed to stack up different effects into a pattern you like. Then... you can experiment with that same rhythm applied to different effect parameters just by copy and pasting.
I'm pretty sure those patterns can also be exported and imported as MIDI files but don't quote me on that bit. At the very least you can save the whole thing as a template for later reuse.
This, for me, is solidly in the "Big Deal" category. It makes using AUs (and saving/browsing) their sounds a delight. I'm hoping 1) all AU developers get on board with reporting their presets to the host properly and 2) (a huge stretch) they considering using the NS2 tag set to categorize them so we don't have to do it.
I'm one of the biggest NS fans around so please forgive me for adding this: NS2 doesn't support Audiobus and Obsidian isn't an AU synth that could be hosted in AB. Much as I love Obsidian and NS, I don't think it's appropriate to make Obsidian the focus of an AB Forum Soundfest. Don't shit where you eat, etc. /2¢
I want to hear the filters in action....anyone?
Thanks for your response @Slam_Cut.
Offended? I never was even close to offended. I was annoyed at what I see (not from Matt however) as repeated sidestepping of the issue and the unrealistic suggestions that other AU developers should and will somehow adapt to NS2’s unique design constraints, when their apps work well in most or all other hosts. I’m confident Matt can and will make AU support in NS2 as good or better than other hosts. It just isn’t there yet (other than reliability, which is top-notch).
I apologize for being overly harsh. I should not have let my frustration over the direction of those conversations get away from me. I don’t take any of this personally. It’s just a debate, plain and simple. I forget too often that others do take this stuff personally. I’ll be more careful going forward.
Hey @syrupcore, are you Will over at the NS2 forum?