Audiobus: Use your music apps together.
What is Audiobus? — Audiobus is an award-winning music app for iPhone and iPad which lets you use your other music apps together. Chain effects on your favourite synth, run the output of apps or Audio Units into an app like GarageBand or Loopy, or select a different audio interface output for each app. Route MIDI between apps — drive a synth from a MIDI sequencer, or add an arpeggiator to your MIDI keyboard — or sync with your external MIDI gear. And control your entire setup from a MIDI controller.Download on the App Store
Audiobus is the app that makes the rest of your setup better.
Ever heard of the saying "the asymmetry of bullshit". It means if bullshit is produced by big sources you hardly can't refute it because it takes such an effort that most people don't even start to giving their opinions. Welcome to the social media
The Audio Technica M50x is a perfect example of this. Promoted by the biggest tech blogs with an audience every audio magazine can dream of, you only find any serious critique when you start to dig very deep into google. These tech blogs are the perfect marktingtools nowadays. Anyway I talked also about my own experience with these cans. They are unusable if your're into serious music business.
If we're talking about pricerange. The Sonys are in my eyes the best for that. But undeniable the Beyers are doing also a good job. With the others mentioned here I don't have any experience.
And with "the whole world" disagreeing with me doesn't make my opinion not true. I adviced try before you buy. With the knowledge of the mids of the 50mx are not very good, you can focus on it and hear it for yourselves. Try before you buy and compare and don't just follow the so called mass opinions.
Thanks for that link... I have to admit, I assumed the m50x was great based on what I saw in Youtube reviews...
That. Also closed back headphones tire your ears faster
Ah ok. Though @AudioGus saus he found some headphones and experienced zero fatigue. I’m intrigued by those that he mentioned.
Exact same boat. Two pairs of cracked Spirit Pros and Sweetwater has just recently sent me a new pair of Listen Pros as a replacement. Much happier with this new design. And I’ve been using them with Sonarworks on my iMac through Logic. With that profile they are deadly accurate for mix duties. I read that Sonarworks were planning to release an iOS app. Not sure if that’s still happening but I feel it would be a major step for this platform in the headphone mixing and critical listening department.
Fatigue is subjective and zero fatigue doesent exist. By design open back causes less of it
I listen at pretty low volumes. Most ear fatique i ever experienced had almost everything to do with physical fit and not actual listening.
But Yah if i were at home more i would absolutely use my open back AKG k702 headphones. Cant use them on the train or at work though so I just never got to know them. Wife uses them on the Roku now lol
Btw, i never meant to imply or said that with these headphones i could never experience ear fatigue again just that I have no ear fatique anymore, meaning it is not an issue like it was before with other headphones that did not fit my head/ears as well. I am sure if I put in a solid six or eight hour day attentively mixing i would have it but most of my day is just casual listening with scattered bits of mixing sprinkled in.
Yea fatigue is a combination of both sound and fit. The thing is that closed back will create more low/high pressure on your ear drums when the element moves, as air cant escape as freely than with open back.
I use akg 702 as well(can recommend them and other akg from same range) and that sort of headphones definitely are not for use in public transportation etc. Iphone/pads headphone out cant drive them as well as i would want to, but its like 95% there, usually max vol is right vol, but sometimes i want more. But i use them through interface. This is something to keep in mind tho. Open back with same impedance than closed, will likely have less output to your ears as the sound can freely escape all over
What are your thoughts on the Sennheiser hd650? Open backs
I will try these because I need headphones both in and off studio!
If you want good and cheap check out this thread on head-fi.org 260 pages and counting
Unless you are going to get really expensive headphones, it's probably not going to be a flat response. For me, my old ears are so bad, it wouldn't matter. I can't hear high range anyway.
If you can afford it, I recommend Sonarworks headphone calibration. They can take the profile of any of the major headphones and remove "unwanted coloration" Theoretically this balances the frequency response. You get it as a plugin to put in the master out of your DAW. You can also use it for all the sound that comes out of your computer. They have a free demo and they constantly have sales.
They also sell a version for your studio that works with your speakers and room acoustics.
I recognize this is not for people who do their final mix and mastering on their iPads or iPhones.
Toneboosters has what I think is a similar one for cheaper as well, just a vst though...
It would be cool if Sonarworks or IK or somebody would offer a version of this for iOS at an iOS price point.
I will say that it does take some getting used to. Your headphones don't sound the way you're used to them sounding.
Have to agree the Sonly 7506's are workhorses. They sound great, have been consistent over the years, are used everywhere and aren't too expensive ( though they are a bear to get out of the box when they arrive!).
They fold up well and the coiled cable is good for portable use.
I always add a $20.00 set of leather ear pads which suit me much better.
For trips / traveling I have a set of Pioneer Rayz earbuds which sport a Lightning connector and have a decent active EQ built in ... for those of us who have done a bit too much er ... music. Noise cancelling is good and they take up no space.
Perfect for airplanes, trains, busses .... not final mixing... but no headphone is great for that (IMHO ).
Headphones sound different to different people. It’s a very subjective thing. You gotta try and see what works for you.
Very interesting point. I did once search for the same type of app for iOS. But what I understood Apple doesn't let devs do this kind of apps for iOS. Has something to do with control. You can only build such apps for an individual app.
@Reid and @AudioGus interesting to note Audio Evolution works close together with Toneboosters so I could see that they could come up with such a specific iap for the Audio Evolution app. Toneboosters has the software already as a VST they only have to port it. The VST for headphone profiles is btw called Morphit.
After reading your post, I became curious about Sonarworks. From your review and the many more on other audio/recording forums, I’d pay the $80 for an iOS version of True-Fi.
I’m super happy with mine. I mix with monitors but the ATH 50mx’s will get you pretty close, very comfortable, and the highs are clean and accurate. But not all ears will agree, ever.
I recommend the Sennheiser HD-380 Pro and since I had the Beyer Dynamic DT 770 Pro in the past my experience for the Sennheiser over the Beyer is
And my top pick (to understand my subjective taste in sound) is beyerdynamic DT-990 Pro, which in your case I don’t recommend since they are open back ...
I really like the Audiotechnica M50X, I also use the Sennheiser HD598 a lot, but you get a lot of noise leakage due to the open back design, but they are the most comfortable headphones I have ever used, ideal for super long sessions where you aren’t going to annoy anyone else, they also tend to let a lot of noise in too. But they sound amazing.
The Audiotecnica M50X also sound excellent and are closed back so you won’t annoy anyone, but they aren’t as comfortable as the Sennheisers, not uncomfortable though, but after a long time you will feel ear fatigue.
Plus you won’t need a preamp with either of these, and they will both go pretty loud without any real noticeable difference in sound quality.
Great post filled with excellent analogies (particularly the Sennheiser versus Sony comparison). I'm no sound engineer, but I do think about headphones differently when I'm recording/monitoring instruments versus throwing on an album and just listening to music. For the latter, I probably do prefer a "darker"/warmer sound. There's nothing wrong with favoring certain frequencies when listening to music. I would argue that Beats headphones turned a lot of people into wannabe audiophiles by overemphasizing low frequencies that drown out the rest of the music (similar to how the release of the iPhone made a lot of people feel like "techies" when they really aren't). BUT, if you just happen to prefer how a pair of Beats sounds with the type of music you listen to, who am I to tell you not to enjoy that?
But music creation and mastering is different. You want something flat, or at least expressive across the entire frequency spectrum so you can actually hear changes to the music you are recording/producing. Also, you may be working on an individual instrument that fits into a mix, and certain instruments are supposed to occupy different frequency ranges so they fit well together.
This happens a ton with guitar players and perceptions of "tone". Lots of players start out on thin, brittle-sounding cheap amps, so they lust after darker, fuller tones. But guitar frequencies thrive in the mids, and if you're a live player - or even recording and wanting your part to be heard "in the mix", a super full-sounding or dark guitar part that you prefer in isolation is likely to become a mumbled mess with no articulation in the overall sound.
Good studio monitors can "handle" bass well, but do so in a way that articulates different notes and frequencies. You should be able to hear the changes of notes in the lower frequencies without experiencing the swell and decay of a giant kick or sub bass that drowns everything out.
Sennheiser HD7. Ideal if you want to sleep in the train.