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Artiphon Instrument 1 - feedback

all -

anyone here use the Artiphon Instrument1 as a controller? My attempts at fixing my 25-year old Peavy Cyberbass aren't going anywhere, and all the reviews i've seen of the Instrument1 are favorable. would probably want to use it as a 6 string bass type controller (since thats what i play anyway).

DavidEnglish - I see in posts you use one, is it a real controller or more of a toy?

thx all

-thumbslapper

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  • edited December 2016

    If you want to make a call out to someone, you can start it with @
    Like this:
    @DavidEnglish

  • edited December 2016

    @thumbslapper said:
    anyone here use the Artiphon Instrument1 as a controller? My attempts at fixing my 25-year old Peavy Cyberbass aren't going anywhere, and all the reviews i've seen of the Instrument1 are favorable. would probably want to use it as a 6 string bass type controller (since thats what i play anyway).

    DavidEnglish - I see in posts you use one, is it a real controller or more of a toy?

    It's a real controller, as opposed to just being a toy. It's quite playable as a musical instrument. And it allows for a fair amount of expression.

    I've had mine since early November, because I was a participant in the Kickstarter campaign back in 2015. When I had a chance to actually try it at Moogfest in May, I couldn't figure out how to play it. When I received it last month, I spent some time exploring the different presets and matching them to some of my favorite iPad synth sounds. I'm a keyboard guy and have never played a string instrument, so I approached it as a new kind of instrument.

    It works especially well with the few apps that support MPE MIDI input, such as Animoog and Model 15. I plan to try it soon with Geoshred, now that it supports MPE MIDI input. It also works well with MIDI-input apps that don't yet support MPE. I use it frequently with Addictive Pro, Synthmaster Player, iWavestation, and Alchemy Mobile.

    Can't really speak to it being used as a string bass type controller. It has frets, but wouldn't have the feel of strings. It has been very good for bending and sliding notes on my pad-like sounds.

    Seems well constructed. And the built-in stereo speakers are a plus, as the audio routes back to the Instrument 1 by default, when it's attached to my iPad.

    On the downside, there's no wireless option.

    Hope that helps.

  • thank you for the review.

  • I like it but it seems to need some time for customization. It doesn't come with a lot of preset scales as far as I can tell. It is easy to set up with Animoog and pressure relates easily to the mod but I don't really understand what's going on under the hood. Good for people who want an expressive controller and are willing to take the time for setup. If you're just looking for plug and play I'm not sure it improves on just the Animoog controller.

  • @DavidEnglish - you might like the Puc+ by Zivix. Got mine on the Indiegogo kickstarter. I use it for connecting my Kboard and FCB1010 ( has both USB & 5pin). Of course it would connect via USB to the Artiphon. Depending on how you play it (standing, sitting, on a surface) you could attach the Puc+ to the strap, hang it in a bag, set it on a table top.

    Just thought I'd throw that out there since you mentioned not having wireless connectivity (built-in).

  • @DavidEnglish / @thesammiller - thx for the comments, they were great. There is also the eiglenlabs gear, which looks nice but is pricey (esp their higher end models). Like you I'd use it to control Model15 and Animoog, there are some great basses on those 2 apps. Now that GeoShred suports MIDI out i've been using that and it works really well, but would be nice to have something more tactile.

    The Puc+ looks cool, and an easy way to make it wireless.

    I'm seriously thinking about buying it in a few months...

    -carl

  • @Ganthofer said:
    @DavidEnglish - you might like the Puc+ by Zivix. Got mine on the Indiegogo kickstarter. I use it for connecting my Kboard and FCB1010 ( has both USB & 5pin). Of course it would connect via USB to the Artiphon. Depending on how you play it (standing, sitting, on a surface) you could attach the Puc+ to the strap, hang it in a bag, set it on a table top.

    Just thought I'd throw that out there since you mentioned not having wireless connectivity (built-in).

    @Ganthofer, thanks for the suggestion. I'll check it out.

  • edited January 2017

    @DavidEnglish - you might like the Puc+ by Zivix. Got mine on the Indiegogo kickstarter. I use it for connecting my Kboard and FCB1010 ( has both USB & 5pin). Of course it would connect via USB to the Artiphon. Depending on how you play it (standing, sitting, on a surface) you could attach the Puc+ to the strap, hang it in a bag, set it on a table top.

    Just thought I'd throw that out there since you mentioned not having wireless connectivity (built-in).

    @Ganthofer, thanks for the suggestion. I'll check it out.

    I tried the puc+ with I1, and I1 froze on startup. Someone at Zivix investigated and confirmed that I1 is not currently supported. Apparently I1 is a control surface requiring 2-way MIDI but puc+ is only one-way: either IN or OUT. In my experience, I1 works fine with just MIDI OUT but, apparently, it does not like that puc+ will only work in one direction.

    On the other hand, the Yamaha UD-BT01 works fine and sells for half the price of the puc+. Attach the UD-BT01 to a a mintyboost for wireless operation.

  • A question for any artiphon owner out there. Trying to figure out if my instrument is defective or not. Not a guitar player, so maybe I'm clueless but when I touch a fret I hear a sound. Hammer on sensitivity doesn't seem to make any difference. Should I hear anything if I am just laying fingers down on the frets and not strumming anything ?

  • Bumping this thread up.

    Anyone doing anything interesting on the Artiphon?

  • edited April 2018

    It's my controller of choice these days, particularly since they brought in accelerometer tilt and volume knob CC9; it feels very natural to be controlling the screen with the right hand while playing the Artiphon in tap mode with the left. I like to tune the bottom two strings down an octave when controlling synths, and because you can play multiple notes per strong I've also been playing around with a two-handed tap tuning that gets five continuous octaves out of it by tuning the first six frets down an octave and the top six up one. I went through a phase of routing the bridge triggers to percussion, bass, or chords in Midiflow, though it's fiddly in MPE mode. It's fantastic with something like LayR; the tilt feature is so much more natural than a traditional mod wheel.

    It really is a lovely piece of kit, and great for just running through scales and arpeggios on one headphone while watching TV. I ponied up for the Jamstik 12 today, but more to support them than because I'm expecting it to displace the Artiphon in my own use.

  • @Masanga said:
    It's my controller of choice these days, particularly since they brought in accelerometer tilt and volume knob CC9;

    @Masanga Would love to hear more about the tilt feature ... reading this thread has given me GAS again ...

  • edited December 2019

    @bibenu said:

    @Masanga said:
    It's my controller of choice these days, particularly since they brought in accelerometer tilt and volume knob CC9;

    @Masanga Would love to hear more about the tilt feature ... reading this thread has given me GAS again ...

    Sorry not to have seen this while they had their sale on at the weekend! But the tilt function is great: it sends out CC1 mod wheel within a user-defined set of angles, so you can set the threshold and maximum depending on your preferred playing position. So you just lift the nut end of the I1 as you play and it'll control your soft synth's mod wheel or whatever else you opt to do with CC1.

    ROLI's Equator and the iOS apps that use its engine (Noise, Seaboard 5D) have a slightly idiosyncratic MIDI mapping under which CC1 is rather marginalised and CC74 Brightness is the message mapped to the Slide dimension (a sort of mod wheel on steroids), but Noise also accepts CC1 for this dimension and for the others you can just use MidiFire or StreamByter to map CC1 to CC74. (Further details with screenshots on the Artiphon forum here.)

    I'm still kind of blown away by this controller after nearly 3 years. I find it far more sensitive and expressive than my Seaboard Block, particularly for solo lines; it only takes a light touch to trigger notes and then you can do really gorgeous things with bend, aftertouch, and tilt. (Try it with Roger Linn's favourite ROLI preset Mellow Duduk.)

    Limitations:

    • aftertouch and pitch bend are the same action at different levels of pressure, so you can't combine them in as flexible ways as with a Seaboard;

    • even with the CC74 remapping, Slide is global rather than per-note as on the Seaboard range;

    • no Bluetooth MIDI without cumbersome third-party gear;

    • the bridge triggers aren't all that and if you're a decent fingerstyle guitarist you won't find them responsive enough to pick at speed. It's primarily a tap instrument for players whose fretting hand is comfortable with the fingerboard (and who don't mind the equal-width frets, to which you get used within a day or two).

    But if you're even a little bit more of a guitarist than a keyboardist, or if you just want an MPE controller with a bit more responsiveness to soft touches than the Seaboards offer, it's pretty compelling. (And if you have a Seaboard, you can play that with your right hand and the I1 with your left at the same time...)

  • edited December 2019

    [Sorry, hit Post rather than Save on an edit to the above; duplicate deleted.]

  • I was wondering whether there is a new version in the pipeline, or whether there is any serious competition from other manufacturers in a similar price range?

  • No to the second, and Artiphon tend to be tight-lipped about future plans (they managed to keep the Orba under wraps right up till it launched on Kickstarter). A lot of the Orba tech – next-gen MPE superset, internal synth, Bluetooth MIDI, USB-C instead of mini USB – would be obvious inclusions in a new version of the I1, but they haven't indicated whether a new model is even part of their roadmap.

  • edited October 2020

    I joined Taetro's stream a few weeks ago and got to sneak in a few questions to the founder of Artiphon.

    I believe there's a price reduction for the Artiphon. Now set to $299

    https://m.facebook.com/Artiphon/photos/a.529412057092071/3662214180478494/?type=3&source=57

    I do also post videos on the Artiphon on my channel at

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  • @Masanga said:
    No to the second, and Artiphon tend to be tight-lipped about future plans (they managed to keep the Orba under wraps right up till it launched on Kickstarter). A lot of the Orba tech – next-gen MPE superset, internal synth, Bluetooth MIDI, USB-C instead of mini USB – would be obvious inclusions in a new version of the I1, but they haven't indicated whether a new model is even part of their roadmap.

    Hi @masanga. Thank you, this is very helpful. In fact I just watched teatro’s interview recommended by seon and learned a considerable amount from it - especially about the underlying philosophy of the designer. What I hadn’t realised is that the I1 is apparently still in development under the kickstarter project, which means that there is the potential for further development incorporating new ideas.
    That in itself seems an encouraging indication, since new features from the Orba development might well find themselves in future firmware updates - particularly since the response to the kickstarter project was so much better than they had hoped for. The fact that it has been 10 years in development probably also means that there could be a few surprises in store, although it seems obvious that their main focus at the moment is the Orba.
    Something I find off putting about the design of the I1 is the 12 fret/1 octave physical limitation and the lack of a whammy bar. I understand that you can map octave ip/down to one of the pads or even the volume control pot, but that is not instantaneous enough. I find a similar limitation with less than full size keyboards - especially when auditioning samples of instruments whose range falls outside of the immediate range of the keyboard, perhaps lacking just one or two keys. In short it can be really frustrating to have to keep switching octaves just to be able to access those notes, and I have little doubt that it would be the same with the I1.
    I understand why they chose to incorporate on board speakers, but this is not a feature I would make much use of - in fact I’d like to see a more guitar-centric version with a tremolo and 22 frets minus the speakers. Personally I would find that more useful.
    Do you know whether an external midi cc or external foot switch can be assigned to a hold function for the notes being held down? This would allow one to solo over even 8 note chords! Another important function would be a sustain pedal using the same principle.

    [Something I find intriguing which would be physically impossible on any string instrument is the I1’s ability to play two (or more?) notes simultaneously on the same virtual string. I can see how this could greatly expand the current limitations of the guitar, especially with chords, since there is the potential for playing polytonal chords which are normally only possible on a keyboard instrument. I find that very exciting. And it seems that this would be ideal for anyone specialising in legato technique, since the touch sensitivity seems so good from all I have read so far.
    In fact I would really love to hear what Stanley Jordan could do with one (or two!) of these!]

  • Having onboard speakers is cool (as does their second instrument, the Orba), but I struggle with their audio interfaces. If iOS supported multiple audio interfaces this wouldn't be an issue.

  • Doe> @seonnthaproducer said:

    I believe there's a price reduction for the Artiphon. Now set to $299

    If the instrument 1 has been reduced in price, doesn't that suggest something new might be on the way ?

  • edited October 2020

    Yes, to this day I have no idea what the audio jack input is supposed to do. I just use the iPad audio unless I'm specifically playing through the speakers.

    @DSCB57 said:

    Something I find off putting about the design of the I1 is the 12 fret/1 octave physical limitation and the lack of a whammy bar. I understand that you can map octave ip/down to one of the pads or even the volume control pot, but that is not instantaneous enough. I find a similar limitation with less than full size keyboards - especially when auditioning samples of instruments whose range falls outside of the immediate range of the keyboard, perhaps lacking just one or two keys. In short it can be really frustrating to have to keep switching octaves just to be able to access those notes, and I have little doubt that it would be the same with the I1.

    Yes, with practice it's possible to hit the transpose buttons on the fly with the (largely idle) right hand while playing with the left, but it's easy to fluff it and I wouldn't want to rely on it. But don't forget you can completely remap the fingerboard to extend the octave range while retaining standard guitar fingerings; it's an insanely customisable playing surface, and once you start thinking outside the box you'll never want to go back inside.

    I understand why they chose to incorporate on board speakers, but this is not a feature I would make much use of - in fact I’d like to see a more guitar-centric version with a tremolo and 22 frets minus the speakers. Personally I would find that more useful.

    You'll probably find that once you get one in your hands you'll find yourself gently nudged away from the limitations of a physical-guitar paradigm towards a transfer of guitar skills to a more optimised playing surface. One of the blinding revelations of the I1 is that the guitarist's picking hand is basically a kludgy workaround for the fact that we can't play with a single touch like keyboardists have been doing since the beginning of time. (But don't succumb to keyboard envy: we guitarists have the incalculable advantage of a phenomenally compact and ergonomically optimal playing surface which is effortlessly transposable and massively more intuitive as a cognitive representation of harmonic relationships. Theodore Sturgeon, a lifelong guitarist as well as a different kind of keyboard titan: “You can learn more music theory in a year on guitar than you can in three on a piano.”) There's probably a flame war in this, but Artiphon are on the side of the guitarists; the I1 is a gigantic f-you to the dominant keyboard paradigm, and for all its (not unwarranted) self-advertisement as a multi-instrument has zero to offer the keyboard player.

    Do you know whether an external midi cc or external foot switch can be assigned to a hold function for the notes being held down? This would allow one to solo over even 8 note chords! Another important function would be a sustain pedal using the same principle.

    You don't even need a footswitch. You can use the largely superfluous bridge triggers – there primarily as unsatisfactory simulations of the right-hand experience for players who want to stick with a guitar-like relationship between the hands – in far more creative ways than as frustratingly unresponsive string substitutes. In regular tap mode you can play sustained drones (or if you're in the right key, chords) on them with the right hand while playing a melody over them including the same notes with the left, and you can very easily map the bridge triggers to chords in Navichord or something more elaborate. It's hard to give a sense of just how empowering the I1 is to guitarists; it's lifting all the limitations of the physical instrument and releasing your skills into an ergonimic space which in key ways is far better optimised for them than a real guitar. (Anyone can sound like a blues god, at least to themselves, with a BB Box fingering and ten minutes' practice on I1. It's a bloody outrage, really.) Bar chords are impossible, but the I1 way is to make you then think "Wait, why am I using full barre here when I could be using a more efficient jazz-voicing half-barre?"

    [Something I find intriguing which would be physically impossible on any string instrument is the I1’s ability to play two (or more?) notes simultaneously on the same virtual string. I can see how this could greatly expand the current limitations of the guitar, especially with chords, since there is the potential for playing polytonal chords which are normally only possible on a keyboard instrument. I find that very exciting. And it seems that this would be ideal for anyone specialising in legato technique, since the touch sensitivity seems so good from all I have read so far.

    Yes, this is an incredible feature. Sevenths in particular become fingerable and voiceable in completely new, and often better, ways. The first time you try it your ear says "Wait, I know that sound – it's… a keyboard!" – so familiar to our ears are tight voicings on keyboard, and so alien to our experience of guitar chords.

    I could go on. The Orba is a lovely device and is pushing the boundaries of MPE beyond existing technology in ways that four years ago the I1 was doing with what was available at the time. But where the Orba is using Artiphon's trademark deep thought about musical affordances to propose a new kind of expressive beatmaking and drone instrument for the MPE era, it's not an instrument you can readily play an existing tune on (unless it's Princess Mononoke) or which allows your existing physical-instrument skills to do the kinds of thing that ROLI's gear does for keyboard players. The Instrument 1 still seems to me their real gamechanger. At $299 it's just a no-brainer for any guitarist with any kind of MPE envy.

  • @bibenu said:
    Doe> @seonnthaproducer said:

    I believe there's a price reduction for the Artiphon. Now set to $299

    If the instrument 1 has been reduced in price, doesn't that suggest something new might be on the way ?

    Taetro asked that question in the video. Mike mentioned that they were focusing on adding experiences that can’t be replicated. Seems they’re into making devices than making minor revisions. Apparently it took 7 years with 5 for research to make the Artiphon Instrument One. And they just recently made the Orba.

  • @mojozart said:
    Having onboard speakers is cool (as does their second instrument, the Orba), but I struggle with their audio interfaces. If iOS supported multiple audio interfaces this wouldn't be an issue.

    Now that would be a great thing, to be able to enable / disable the audio interface in software through a firmware update, . I sometimes want to use the speaker when connected to my velcro'd iphone, other times no audio wanted when using as a wired midi controller to my iPad.

    On a side note, I've seen a lot of people (well, 3 anyway) trying to hook up convoluted midi bluetooth solutions to the Artiphon I1. While I'm no stranger myself to convoluted solutions, they are seemingly missing the obvious of using an iPhone as a bluetooth midi sender (with midimmtr), much neater.

    On one last side note, I wanted a shorter cable to my iPhone, but couldn't find a short lightning to mini USB. I bought a 6" micro to lightning (marketed for a Mavic drone controller) and stuck a micro to mini adapter on. Works well.

  • @Masanga said:
    Yes, to this day I have no idea what the audio jack input is supposed to do. I just use the iPad audio unless I'm specifically playing through the speakers.

    @DSCB57 said:

    Something I find off putting about the design of the I1 is the 12 fret/1 octave physical limitation and the lack of a whammy bar. I understand that you can map octave ip/down to one of the pads or even the volume control pot, but that is not instantaneous enough. I find a similar limitation with less than full size keyboards - especially when auditioning samples of instruments whose range falls outside of the immediate range of the keyboard, perhaps lacking just one or two keys. In short it can be really frustrating to have to keep switching octaves just to be able to access those notes, and I have little doubt that it would be the same with the I1.

    Yes, with practice it's possible to hit the transpose buttons on the fly with the (largely idle) right hand while playing with the left, but it's easy to fluff it and I wouldn't want to rely on it. But don't forget you can completely remap the fingerboard to extend the octave range while retaining standard guitar fingerings; it's an insanely customisable playing surface, and once you start thinking outside the box you'll never want to go back inside.

    I understand why they chose to incorporate on board speakers, but this is not a feature I would make much use of - in fact I’d like to see a more guitar-centric version with a tremolo and 22 frets minus the speakers. Personally I would find that more useful.

    You'll probably find that once you get one in your hands you'll find yourself gently nudged away from the limitations of a physical-guitar paradigm towards a transfer of guitar skills to a more optimised playing surface. One of the blinding revelations of the I1 is that the guitarist's picking hand is basically a kludgy workaround for the fact that we can't play with a single touch like keyboardists have been doing since the beginning of time. (But don't succumb to keyboard envy: we guitarists have the incalculable advantage of a phenomenally compact and ergonomically optimal playing surface which is effortlessly transposable and massively more intuitive as a cognitive representation of harmonic relationships. Theodore Sturgeon, a lifelong guitarist as well as a different kind of keyboard titan: “You can learn more music theory in a year on guitar than you can in three on a piano.”) There's probably a flame war in this, but Artiphon are on the side of the guitarists; the I1 is a gigantic f-you to the dominant keyboard paradigm, and for all its (not unwarranted) self-advertisement as a multi-instrument has zero to offer the keyboard player.

    Do you know whether an external midi cc or external foot switch can be assigned to a hold function for the notes being held down? This would allow one to solo over even 8 note chords! Another important function would be a sustain pedal using the same principle.

    You don't even need a footswitch. You can use the largely superfluous bridge triggers – there primarily as unsatisfactory simulations of the right-hand experience for players who want to stick with a guitar-like relationship between the hands – in far more creative ways than as frustratingly unresponsive string substitutes. In regular tap mode you can play sustained drones (or if you're in the right key, chords) on them with the right hand while playing a melody over them including the same notes with the left, and you can very easily map the bridge triggers to chords in Navichord or something more elaborate. It's hard to give a sense of just how empowering the I1 is to guitarists; it's lifting all the limitations of the physical instrument and releasing your skills into an ergonimic space which in key ways is far better optimised for them than a real guitar. (Anyone can sound like a blues god, at least to themselves, with a BB Box fingering and ten minutes' practice on I1. It's a bloody outrage, really.) Bar chords are impossible, but the I1 way is to make you then think "Wait, why am I using full barre here when I could be using a more efficient jazz-voicing half-barre?"

    [Something I find intriguing which would be physically impossible on any string instrument is the I1’s ability to play two (or more?) notes simultaneously on the same virtual string. I can see how this could greatly expand the current limitations of the guitar, especially with chords, since there is the potential for playing polytonal chords which are normally only possible on a keyboard instrument. I find that very exciting. And it seems that this would be ideal for anyone specialising in legato technique, since the touch sensitivity seems so good from all I have read so far.

    Yes, this is an incredible feature. Sevenths in particular become fingerable and voiceable in completely new, and often better, ways. The first time you try it your ear says "Wait, I know that sound – it's… a keyboard!" – so familiar to our ears are tight voicings on keyboard, and so alien to our experience of guitar chords.

    I could go on. The Orba is a lovely device and is pushing the boundaries of MPE beyond existing technology in ways that four years ago the I1 was doing with what was available at the time. But where the Orba is using Artiphon's trademark deep thought about musical affordances to propose a new kind of expressive beatmaking and drone instrument for the MPE era, it's not an instrument you can readily play an existing tune on (unless it's Princess Mononoke) or which allows your existing physical-instrument skills to do the kinds of thing that ROLI's gear does for keyboard players. The Instrument 1 still seems to me their real gamechanger. At $299 it's just a no-brainer for any guitarist with any kind of MPE envy.

    Thank you for your comprehensive answer. I must admit I’m **sorely tempted **now, especially at the reduced price point (199$ on their website, with a 4 week supply time). However I am worried from what I’ve read that I might have to wait substantially longer than the quoted four weeks for the order to be fulfilled. I also suspect that it’s likely that a new version will be released at some point, and perhaps that would be worth waiting for?

    I have been looking for a used example on Fleabay, but the only one available was hugely overpriced from a supplier in Japan. I’ve heard of them being sold very cheaply, but right now they seem to be a rarity.

    Something else I forgot to mention is how attractive I find the light weight of the I1 - especially since I suffer from severe back problems which seriously affect my ability to use a heavy instrument.
    I was trying to put a headless ergonomic guitar together, but hardware supply problems have held me up due to the pandemic. But maybe I’ll try this option instead.
    I must say that I would be very excited about the availability of SWAM instruments on the iOS platform, and this sounds like the ideal instrument to make the most of that aside from a wind synth controller of some sort (which I wouldn’t be able to play anyway).

    I forgot one other question I wanted to ask you, if you don’t mind. How easy would it be to interface a breath controller with the I1? I presume it wouldn’t be possible to plug one into the I1’s USB port directly, so would it need to be connected to my audio/midi interface via the iPad, or my Mac or PC, then configured via the DAW, or is there an easier way to go about this?

  • The I1 is a USB peripheral and so is a breath controller; you need to connect them to a host such as an iPad, meaning you'll need a USB hub if you want to connect both to your iPad.

    Otherwise I can't think of any problems specific to the I1. You'll need to find patches that are designed to be controlled by the CC messages generated by your breath control.

  • @DSCB57 said:
    especially at the reduced price point (199$ on their website, with a 4 week supply time).

    Hmm ... showing $299 now ... was that a typo ? Please don't tell me I missed I tiny time window when it was $199 ?

  • edited October 2020

    @bibenu said:

    @DSCB57 said:
    especially at the reduced price point (199$ on their website, with a 4 week supply time).

    Hmm ... showing $299 now ... was that a typo ? Please don't tell me I missed I tiny time window when it was $199 ?

    I really thought I saw was $299, now $199, but when I returned to the store yesterday to find out about International shipping it just showed as $299. Now I am left wondering whether I imagined it, and if so, I apologise for misleading you.

    However I also found that they don’t ship directly to Spain, and the only online retailer which does ship to Spain is here: https://www.musicstore.com/es_ES/EUR/Artiphon-Instrument-1-black/art-SYN0006965-000?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvP6rnrCr7AIVxbLVCh0a4AgBEAEYAiAAEgINL_D_BwE
    But there is no way I’m going to pay nearly 400€ plus shipping for just the I1 with no extras whatsoever. There is one on eBay, and I am in negotiation with the seller to see whether he will agree to ship to Spain. What would be a fair price to pay for a pre-owned I1 in the EU?

  • @mojozart said:
    The I1 is a USB peripheral and so is a breath controller; you need to connect them to a host such as an iPad, meaning you'll need a USB hub if you want to connect both to your iPad.

    Otherwise I can't think of any problems specific to the I1. You'll need to find patches that are designed to be controlled by the CC messages generated by your breath control.

    Thank you. That’s not a problem since I already use a USB hub to connect both my audio interface and my external hard drives to my iPad Pro. I don’t actually own a breath controller yet, but if I do acquire an I1 and find out that I get on well with it, I may well decide to try a breath controller with it. Do any of you have any experience combining a breath controller with the I1, and do you have any recommendations for an affordable yet responsive model?

  • @DSCB57 said:

    @bibenu said:

    @DSCB57 said:
    especially at the reduced price point (199$ on their website, with a 4 week supply time).

    Hmm ... showing $299 now ... was that a typo ? Please don't tell me I missed I tiny time window when it was $199 ?

    I really thought I saw was $299, now $199, but when I returned to the store yesterday to find out about International shipping it just showed as $299. Now I am left wondering whether I imagined it, and if so, I apologise for misleading you.

    However I also found that they don’t ship directly to Spain, and the only online retailer which does ship to Spain is here: https://www.musicstore.com/es_ES/EUR/Artiphon-Instrument-1-black/art-SYN0006965-000?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvP6rnrCr7AIVxbLVCh0a4AgBEAEYAiAAEgINL_D_BwE
    But there is no way I’m going to pay nearly 400€ plus shipping for just the I1 with no extras whatsoever. There is one on eBay, and I am in negotiation with the seller to see whether he will agree to ship to Spain. What would be a fair price to pay for a pre-owned I1 in the EU?

    Do you know whether Artiphon would continue to provide support for an I1 purchased from the original owner if they had only used it once and found that it did not work for them? (he is a pianist, and said he found the I1 cludgy, and that the strum pads were not responsive enough, and I don’t think he tried to update the firmware, which may have improved things). Is the warranty transferable?
    Do any of you who purchased a used one have any experience with this, did you find Artiphon customer support helpful and willing to address any issues which came up after you acquired the instrument, or were they dismissive and unwilling to help since you weren’t the original owner?

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