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surface builder velocity on pad

erosseross
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i am building a surface to control Oneshot. I want to have velocity on pads. how do i set this up in surface builder ?
Are there any other apps that would be good for this?

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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @eross said:
    i am building a surface to control Oneshot. I want to have velocity on pads. how do i set this up in surface builder ?
    Are there any other apps that would be good for this?

    Do you want actual force to be translated to velocity or your finger position on the controller to influence velocity? Velocity keyboard is the only keyboard I know that translates force to velocity.

  • erosseross

    @espiegel123 said:

    @eross said:
    i am building a surface to control Oneshot. I want to have velocity on pads. how do i set this up in surface builder ?
    Are there any other apps that would be good for this?

    Do you want actual force to be translated to velocity or your finger position on the controller to influence velocity? Velocity keyboard is the only keyboard I know that translates force to velocity.

    just finger position

  • wimwim
    edited September 11

    @eross said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @eross said:
    i am building a surface to control Oneshot. I want to have velocity on pads. how do i set this up in surface builder ?
    Are there any other apps that would be good for this?

    Do you want actual force to be translated to velocity or your finger position on the controller to influence velocity? Velocity keyboard is the only keyboard I know that translates force to velocity.

    just finger position

    Can't. Surface builder doesn't support it.
    Check out Xequence AU Pads or KB-1.

  • PapaBPoppinPapaBPoppin

    Velocity Keyboard is my go-to for on-screen finger drumming!

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/velocity-keyboard/id1462605052

    There's a Drum setting that sets up a 4x4 grid and adds an Edit button to the top left. Hit Edit and you can cycle thru whatever notes you want the pads to be. Edit again, and locked in place

    VelKB's best feature tho, faux-velocity sensing

    Using a combo of how much flesh you mash into the screen initially along with using the gyro for movement sensing, it works VERY well for finger drumming, if you're used to pad play!

    I also use it for keys when I'm going naked--err hardware-less but it's finicky

    While not as precise as a proper physical 4x4 hardware pad, id give it a Highly.... highly recommended

    (Ooo I'll do one of my OneShot preset pack runthrus on VKB! Instant comparison sounds)

  • EdZABEdZAB

    +1 for the suggestions given already. If you're open to using something outside dedicated MIDI control surface, you have a lot of additional choices by using apps that have built in pads for sending MIDI with velocity control, including Segments, Digistix 2, EG Pulse, Sitala, and many more.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    KB-1 has positional velocity

  • erosseross

    @EdZAB said:
    +1 for the suggestions given already. If you're open to using something outside dedicated MIDI control surface, you have a lot of additional choices by using apps that have built in pads for sending MIDI with velocity control, including Segments, Digistix 2, EG Pulse, Sitala, and many more.

    oh cool.

  • erosseross

    @eross said:

    @EdZAB said:
    +1 for the suggestions given already. If you're open to using something outside dedicated MIDI control surface, you have a lot of additional choices by using apps that have built in pads for sending MIDI with velocity control, including Segments, Digistix 2, EG Pulse, Sitala, and many more.

    oh cool.

    how do you send midi out of Sitala. it doesn’t seem to work

  • EdZABEdZAB

    @eross said:

    @eross said:

    @EdZAB said:
    +1 for the suggestions given already. If you're open to using something outside dedicated MIDI control surface, you have a lot of additional choices by using apps that have built in pads for sending MIDI with velocity control, including Segments, Digistix 2, EG Pulse, Sitala, and many more.

    oh cool.

    how do you send midi out of Sitala. it doesn’t seem to work

    My bad - I see what you're talking about. I tested Sitala with a kit and samples loaded. It looks like it only sends MIDI once a sample is assigned to the pad, so not the easiest option. If you see any other issues, I can post a video of how I set it up and tested in AUM.

  • erosseross

    @EdZAB said:

    @eross said:

    @eross said:

    @EdZAB said:
    +1 for the suggestions given already. If you're open to using something outside dedicated MIDI control surface, you have a lot of additional choices by using apps that have built in pads for sending MIDI with velocity control, including Segments, Digistix 2, EG Pulse, Sitala, and many more.

    oh cool.

    how do you send midi out of Sitala. it doesn’t seem to work

    My bad - I see what you're talking about. I tested Sitala with a kit and samples loaded. It looks like it only sends MIDI once a sample is assigned to the pad, so not the easiest option. If you see any other issues, I can post a video of how I set it up and tested in AUM.

    I just checked. if I load the Midi version of the app within a midi channel within an AUM. it will transmit midi out

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