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Knowing when to stop

GeoTonyGeoTony
in Creations

Knowing when to stop applies to so many things in life but in this case it’s an exercise in trying to play double stops on the SWAM string instruments.

Sounds here are from SWAM Viola and Violin, BeatHawk Bombards and Bagpipes, World Piano Drones, Bodhrán from the website of Santiago Molina and waves from the BBC.

Played, recorded and mixed in one take in AUM.

What works for me to get consistent double stopping (two notes playing at once) using GeoShred is

1) Change (in SWAM) Bow Polyphony from Mono string Crossing (the default) to Auto.
2) On the Advanced Settings page, make the SWAM window as big as possible and navigate right to the bottom. Change Auto Poly Detection time from 12 (the default) to the maximum of 30.969 🤨
3) Try playing two notes at once in GeoShred.
4) Repeat step 3 a gazillion times until it works consistently 😊

Comments

  • PapaBPoppinPapaBPoppin

    Well that was flippin beautiful

    And reminded me I need to try messing with double stops! I completely forgot about that since I've started Swamming

    Thanks for the awesome music! Good
    to have regular examples of levels to espire to! ☺️

  • myapologiesmyapologies

    I liked the tune and instrumentation, especially the strings. Reminded me of a hymn-familiar and adventurous at the same time. Nice track!

  • SvetlovskaSvetlovska
    edited September 9

    Oh, that does remind me of something.Some Irish folk tune, perhaps? Fascinating tone/technique.And the bodhran style percussion reinforces the vibe.

    A cold open. A survivor of a seventeenth century shipwreck drags themselves from the waves, stands, at first looking battered and weary, but then finds his Claymore in its scabbard in the surf, straps it on, looks meaningfully inland to where the smoke from a wrecked hamlet is rising, and then begins walking, at first stooped and uncertain, but then straightening and with more purpose, in time with the music, toward the burning village. He draws and hefts the Claymore, makes some experimental swings with it. We close on his look of steely determination as his stride quickens. There is bloody work ahead…

  • GeoTonyGeoTony

    Cheers @myapologies and @Svetlovska 👍
    I think I came up with tune Irena but I guess there are lots of similar ones in this style of music.
    Your little story really mirrors the music beautifully .
    I was really surprised how military the section with the bombards and bagpipe was. Quite stirring really.
    Perhaps not surprising as bagpipes have traditionally been used to intimidate the enemy… or was that the kilts ?

  • FrenqFrenq

    I had a great listening! Thanks Tony. frenq

  • AndyHoneyboneAndyHoneybone

    Great pun, great atmosphere, great tune. I have a soft spot for celtic-influenced music so this really does it for me. I was wondering why the double-stopping seemed constrained to the paired notes starting together but after a quick try with your GS settings I found that it was a requirement of getting the effect? I did try setting Bow Polyphony to Double/Hold and while this gave more flexibility when playing duophonic SWAM Viola from a (non MPE) keyboard and to a degree on GS, things unzipped rapidly if I tried bending one of the held notes on GS. So many parameters to explore but for now, that’s certainly where I am going to stop.

  • azul3D_Appsazul3D_Apps

    Lovely piece Tony 👏!

  • belldubelldu

    I don't think you needed the waves here for extra ambience as you play the instruments with such beautiful expressivity.
    But this piece speaks across ages. Hundreds of years ago I can imagine that this would resonate with ancestral GeoTony and I love the connection that this piece forges across time, space, and culture.

  • GeoTonyGeoTony

    Thanks @Frenq , @AndyHoneybone , @azul3D_Apps and @belldu 👍

    Agreed it’s a bit strange Andy. The manual emphasises that you have to play both notes simultaneously. I think increasing the Auto Poly Detection Time just gives a bit more tolerance as to what constitutes simultaneously.
    I can’t understand why they don’t allow you to play a note and then add a second note as a real string player would be able to do.
    Also you can bend both notes at once but not just one of the two which seems odd as well.

  • MadeofWaxMadeofWax

    Great sounds. Great playing.
    You get more out of Geoshred than anyone else I've ever heard. It really is quite amazing.

  • PaulieworldPaulieworld

    Beautiful composition. It brings back memories of the Saturday morning Irish folk music radio program that Mom always listened to. It was something her mother always did, and she kept the tradition alive. Lovely song, well played.

  • LuxthorLuxthor

    Tony, this one clicked with me. It’s an easy but deep melody, touching my soul. Those waves are keeping me grounded. ;) Fantastic piece!

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