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Polybrute 12

edited May 14 in Hardware

ooohhhhhhhhh

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  • 4 grand... BOOOO!

  • the poly full/ aftertouch is absolutely sick on this synth. serious lust for this one.

  • edited May 14

    Oh snap, the beast has been unleashed!
    Looks Oberheim-y

  • This is DOPE 🔥
    Always love Daniel’s demos and Loopop tutorials, PRICELESS content.

  • edited May 14

    Man the price is wrong here…yikes no
    I’ll stay with osmose

  • @MrSmileZ said:
    Man the price is wrong here…yikes no
    I’ll stay with osmose

    Man, I get it… 4k 🙃

  • yeah, the price is a bummer but if i had the money i buy it.

    In terms of keyboard MPE controller the Polybrute 12 is way better than the osmose for me personally. I did not like the feeling of the osmose and there is no cross over for piano playing as a controller, here with the Polybrute 12 you can get the best of both worlds. MPE and normal keyboard controller.

    i wonder if Arturia have a patient on this keybed? if they release a cheaper synth or controller with this keybed it will sell a ton!

    infact if there is no patient then some other company will be using this keybed.

  • @Danny_Mammy said:
    i wonder if Arturia have a patient on this keybed? if they release a cheaper synth or controller with this keybed it will sell a ton!

    infact if there is no patient then some other company will be using this keybed.

    Their own marketing calls it patented and theyve trademarked the term FullTouch too.

    I've forgotten whether I've already seen the patent, and the devil will be in the detail, eg exactly which aspects of the implementation are patented rather than the broader concept. I'll report back when I've had a look. In any case how long it will take more options like this to reach market is going to depend on whether others have already been working on their own versions in the past. It usually takes much longer than you might think to bring such things to fruition, eg just look at how long it took between ASM bringing traditional poly aftertouch back via their Hydrasynths and how long it took for competitors to start to be able to offer something to compete.

  • Aside from this synth having a traditional synth action feel to the keybed, its other advantage is that by blending the expression with the envelopes, they've made it far more likely that people will actually make their sound patches/presets properly take advantage of the expression. I think this is an important step because even in the current era where we now have rather a lot of hardware and software synths that support MPE, the number of MPE presets for the majority of those synths has been less than attractive, often negligible. And that goes both for factory presets and those that people sell or share. And Im including a whole bunch of Arturia soft synths from their V collection which have supported MPE for some years but tend to lack presets that take advantage of that feature.

  • @SteveElbows said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    i wonder if Arturia have a patient on this keybed? if they release a cheaper synth or controller with this keybed it will sell a ton!

    infact if there is no patient then some other company will be using this keybed.

    Their own marketing calls it patented and theyve trademarked the term FullTouch too.

    I've forgotten whether I've already seen the patent, and the devil will be in the detail, eg exactly which aspects of the implementation are patented rather than the broader concept. I'll report back when I've had a look. In any case how long it will take more options like this to reach market is going to depend on whether others have already been working on their own versions in the past. It usually takes much longer than you might think to bring such things to fruition, eg just look at how long it took between ASM bringing traditional poly aftertouch back via their Hydrasynths and how long it took for competitors to start to be able to offer something to compete.

    I really like Arturia so i hope they can keep some exclusivity... if they release a cheaper controller version of this keybed that is ;-)

    also, what a perfect keybed for midi 2.0 when it comes around.

  • Im not making any judgements until I get hands on it. The key bed on the original Polybrute was the worst I’ve ever felt on any synth over $1k, it really let down an otherwise amazing piece of kit.

  • @Tarekith said:
    Im not making any judgements until I get hands on it. The key bed on the original Polybrute was the worst I’ve ever felt on any synth over $1k, it really let down an otherwise amazing piece of kit.

    good point, incidentally i hate the keystep keybed, it hurt my hands after extended play so i had to sell it unfortunately as i love that thing.

  • @MrSmileZ said:
    I’ll stay with osmose

    I don't think you can bend notes by wiggling your finger on the key anyway, like you can on the Osmose.

  • edited May 15

    This separates the software to the hardware.

  • @Danny_Mammy said:
    yeah, the price is a bummer but if i had the money i buy it.

    In terms of keyboard MPE controller the Polybrute 12 is way better than the osmose for me personally. I did not like the feeling of the osmose and there is no cross over for piano playing as a controller, here with the Polybrute 12 you can get the best of both worlds. MPE and normal keyboard controller.

    i wonder if Arturia have a patient on this keybed? if they release a cheaper synth or controller with this keybed it will sell a ton!

    infact if there is no patient then some other company will be using this keybed.

    💯

  • Once they’ve maximized their profits from keeping that keyboard exclusive to the Polybrute, they will hopefully add it to the AstroLab and make that thing worth the money. Then, at some point in the distant future, release a KeyLab with it to compete with the Osmose.

  • edited May 15

    This is just my personal observation and it only applies to poly brute OG…
    It was also overpriced…think about it

    Poly brute 2600.00 vs mini freak 600.00
    Was polybrute actually giving you 3.2x the synth …nope
    Polybrute got sold, mini freak stayed… but this new one ugh way too much money

    I’m going to wait for the bigger and next freak model…now that will be amazing!

  • @aaronpc said:
    Once they’ve maximized their profits from keeping that keyboard exclusive to the Polybrute, they will hopefully add it to the AstroLab and make that thing worth the money. Then, at some point in the distant future, release a KeyLab with it to compete with the Osmose.

    Seriously, AstroLab should’ve launched this keybed 💯

  • Why didn’t astrolab have it? Weird choice

  • @MrSmileZ said:
    Why didn’t astrolab have it? Weird choice

    agreed

  • edited May 17

    man, this synth!!!

    A performance monster!

  • The FullTouch keyboard on the Polybrute 12 has me interested more than the sound.
    I've never laid hands on the OG Polybrute so I don't know what the complaints are about that keybed. The keybed on the Polybrute 12 would be a new model, yes? I hope this tech shows up in other Arturia synths soon.
    For anyone who has owned a Matrixbrute or Polybrute, what are your thoughts on the build quality, the software, and Arturia support?

  • The build quality on the original PB is super good, high quality all the way. Except the keyboard, which just had a super light touch and feel cheap by comparison to the high quality of the rest of the synth.

  • That's too bad about the PB keybed. I hope the new FullTouch is better quality.
    I'm intrigued by the expressiveness of the Polybrute 12, the design is impressive. It looks like a big synth, though, and it's expensive.

  • edited May 19

    I’ll pass while I wait on the next FREAK…that’s what i want! Polyfreak
    But that pb12 sounds great, especially the morphing stuff

  • The morphing capabilities are awesome, you can do so much with that little morphee pad.

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