October 30th 2023 - Apple Event Watch tonight at 5 p.m. PT.

Montreal_Music

iPad and Macbook?

NeuM

@Montreal_Music said:
iPad and Macbook?

Possibly iMacs with the new M3 chips, which will be "scary fast".

Apple has never held a product introduction this late in the day, which is interesting.

Montreal_Music

"Wednesday October 25: Writing for Bloomberg’s Power On newsletter, Mark Gurman writes about the various M3 chips that Apple will launch at its “Scary Fast” event on Monday night."

NeuM

Well, there it is. New chips for MacBook Pro and iMacs. Pretty incredible 3 nm process chips.

EcalusSonda

I guess we know what chips will sport the new iPad Pro..

jwmmakerofmusic

Besides 3M chips, anything else I missed besides the usual standard Apple onanism?

stormywaterz

The video of them using Logic Pro showing off the chips looked cool. Pretty colors in it

wim

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
... besides the usual standard Apple onanism?

OK that cracked me up. 😂

McD

3 New M Series Chips intended for laptop/desktop designs:

New MacBooks using the chips:

jwmmakerofmusic

@stormywaterz @McD thanks mates. I suspect someday the new iPad Pros will gain this tech.

@wim 😏 I'm nothing if I'm not a cynical, sarcastic tosser. Basically sitting through a 50 minute presentation to find out a couple tidbits of info amongst the myre of self-congratulatory twaddle.

McD

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
@stormywaterz @McD thanks mates. I suspect someday the new iPad Pros will gain this tech.

I think these chips run pretty hot and need the MacBook fans so probably NOT iPads because we’d get burned or the chip would melt. But there will be more M Series iPads for sure. Probably with more RAM and 4TB of storage.

jwmmakerofmusic

@McD said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
@stormywaterz @McD thanks mates. I suspect someday the new iPad Pros will gain this tech.

I think these chips run pretty hot and need the MacBook fans so probably NOT iPads because we’d get burned or the chip would melt. But there will be more M Series iPads for sure. Probably with more RAM and 4TB of storage.

That'd be pretty cool.

NeuM

@McD said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
@stormywaterz @McD thanks mates. I suspect someday the new iPad Pros will gain this tech.

I think these chips run pretty hot and need the MacBook fans so probably NOT iPads because we’d get burned or the chip would melt. But there will be more M Series iPads for sure. Probably with more RAM and 4TB of storage.

These are 3 nm chips, so they’d be drawing less power than the previous ones. Why do you think they’d be running hotter?

UPDATE: OK, I queried Google Bard and it says the M3 uses a new kind of transistor called FINFLEX, which has the following advantages:

FINFLEX transistors are a new type of transistor that is more efficient than traditional FinFET transistors. FINFLEX transistors have a more flexible gate structure, which allows them to switch between on and off states more quickly and efficiently. This leads to reduced power consumption and improved performance.

FINFLEX transistors are also more scalable than FinFET transistors, which means that they can be made smaller and packed more densely on a chip. This makes them ideal for use in next-generation chips, which will require more transistors to deliver the same level of performance as current chips.

Here are some of the unique benefits of FINFLEX transistors:

Improved performance: FINFLEX transistors can switch between on and off states more quickly than FinFET transistors, which leads to improved performance.

Reduced power consumption: FINFLEX transistors are more efficient than FinFET transistors, which means that they consume less power.

Increased scalability: FINFLEX transistors can be made smaller and packed more densely on a chip than FinFET transistors.

FINFLEX transistors are still under development, but they have the potential to revolutionize the semiconductor industry. They could lead to the development of smaller, faster, and more energy-efficient chips.

Here are some potential applications of FINFLEX transistors:

Mobile devices: FINFLEX transistors could be used to make mobile devices smaller, faster, and more energy-efficient.

Data centers: FINFLEX transistors could be used to make data center servers more efficient, which could lead to reduced costs and environmental impact.

Artificial intelligence: FINFLEX transistors could be used to make artificial intelligence chips more efficient, which could lead to the development of more powerful and intelligent machines.

McD

@NeuM said:

@McD said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
@stormywaterz @McD thanks mates. I suspect someday the new iPad Pros will gain this tech.

I think these chips run pretty hot and need the MacBook fans so probably NOT iPads because we’d get burned or the chip would melt. But there will be more M Series iPads for sure. Probably with more RAM and 4TB of storage.

These are 3 nm chips, so they’d be drawing less power than the previous ones. Why do you think they’d be running hotter?

You could be right. Right now we get the upper left quadrant and the new MacBooks can go up to the lower right specs. 3nm chips might have lower yields (the % of chips that pass QA testing) and cost more per chip to make so the cost of the device goes up. I think the new very-high end MacBooks start at $3,400. But they are all black aluminum. So, that’s gangster,

NeuM

@McD said:

@NeuM said:

@McD said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
@stormywaterz @McD thanks mates. I suspect someday the new iPad Pros will gain this tech.

I think these chips run pretty hot and need the MacBook fans so probably NOT iPads because we’d get burned or the chip would melt. But there will be more M Series iPads for sure. Probably with more RAM and 4TB of storage.

These are 3 nm chips, so they’d be drawing less power than the previous ones. Why do you think they’d be running hotter?

You could be right. Right now we get the upper left quadrant and the new MacBooks can go up to the lower right specs. 3nm chips might have lower yields (the % of chips that pass QA testing) and cost more per chip to make so the cost of the device goes up. I think the new very-high end MacBooks start at $3,400. But they are all black aluminum. So, that’s gangster,

Yep. First time they’ve been able to engineer black aluminum (“Space Black”, not just “Space Gray”). They’re going to sell a ton of those. I know, I know… it’s just cosmetics, but appearances matter!

Dham

Is Black Al-uminium the new Titanium?

qqq

If the M3 turns out to have a single-core performance of around 3k and they put it in the next iPad air, I'll probably buy my first brand new iPad ever.

I'm currently on an Air 4 and while its pretty good (2065 single-core), I definitely bump up against the upper limit using many AUv3s.

ErrkaPetti

@McD said:

@NeuM said:

@McD said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
@stormywaterz @McD thanks mates. I suspect someday the new iPad Pros will gain this tech.

I think these chips run pretty hot and need the MacBook fans so probably NOT iPads because we’d get burned or the chip would melt. But there will be more M Series iPads for sure. Probably with more RAM and 4TB of storage.

These are 3 nm chips, so they’d be drawing less power than the previous ones. Why do you think they’d be running hotter?

You could be right. Right now we get the upper left quadrant and the new MacBooks can go up to the lower right specs. 3nm chips might have lower yields (the % of chips that pass QA testing) and cost more per chip to make so the cost of the device goes up. I think the new very-high end MacBooks start at $3,400. But they are all black aluminum. So, that’s gangster,

McD, there will not be an Apple Silicon M3 Ultra for sale this year…