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The surf rock sound
Hello! Yes, another "How do I achieve this kind of sound?"-thread. I was just wondering on how to best achieve the classic surf rock guitar, maybe even spaghetti western sound on the iPad? Take this for example: 
(My username is heavily influenced by this song) Can I do something similar to this with Amplitube Fender connected to Guitarism? Thanks.
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If you find a way to tremolo pick that fast with your ipad, please post a video! Otherwise, you could start with some short, slap back delay and turn up the gain.
Tremolo effect will help get you there.
I don't use guitarism, being a guitarist myself, but I would suppose that if any guitar app had the ability for a rapid fire tremolo picking simulation you could approximate the effect. I don't know of any app but others might. Or as @CSwinn said:
Just thought I'd add some info on Misirlou:
The opening notes are E F G# A B C D# C B which is the Double Harmonic scale, Arabic or Byzantine Scale.
Dick Dale used a left-handed fender stratocaster (with heavy strings, strung upside down) and drenched in spring reverb.
Oh, I was looking more for the wet spring reverb type sound, sorry that I wasn't so clear. So, the main guitar effects used in these kinds of songs and how I would best achieve them on an iPad.
@pangolin said:
Damn! Now that's a strike!
I think the main guitar effect is only a Spring reverb.
So the signal chain would be:
1: Guitar ideally a Stratocaster (alternatively a Jazzmaster, Jaguar or any single coil guitar)
2: Spring reverb (is there one in Amplitude? JamUp has a '63 spring reverb and Tonestack has 'Spring Forward') but haven't experimented myself to know how well they'd replicate the sound.
3: Fender Dual Showman (or try any fender amp sim)
4: The ability to semi-mute (lightly resting the side of your picking hand on the string near the bridge) and tremolo picking fast and consistently.
Sorry I can't point you at exactly what reverb to use but I hope this helps and don't get tendonitis or carpal tunnel syndrome from excessive tremolo picking practice:) A lot of this sound is in the technique.
Single coil pickups, clean amp, lots of reverb, tremolo picking
Spring reverb, dual showman, clean guitar, heavy fast picking. Plates or chambers maybe, but after the amp. The 63 spring reverb tank, hung from the rafters is what dick dale used when I saw him a few years ago.
Alternatively, for a more brian setzer-y sound, gretsch into 2 bassmans, lots of space echo.
Jamup and tonestack both have what you need and sound pretty good.
Also, look up plans on line for gabriel roth's (daptone records) "ghetto spring reverb," costs about $20...
ghetto spring reverb great title for a protest song if anyone's writing them....
Yes. And check out his daptone work, it'll be him that writes it!
Okay, thanks everyone! I think I'll go with Jamup, since it's on sale right now. I don't have to buy any expansions to get the "63 spring reverb", right?
Hey, Jessie from Yonac here!
We are pretty obsessed with Dick Dale (just saw him on tour this spring). I uploaded a ToneStack preset that is modeled after his sound: http://www.yonac.com/tonestack/Surf.tpat.zip . You can use just the amp's built-in reverb to achieve his sound, or you can also add our separate spring reverb, Spring Forward.
He's really one of our idols, so we worked pretty hard to model the, well, springy-ness, of our spring reverbs. You get that classic “boing” especially when palm muting. A lot of what’s out there relies on standard digital reverb algs and some EQing instead, but that’s not where it’s at with the reverb tank model.
Also, if you want to check out one of our videos… at 1:24 we're playing some Dick Dale-style Hava Nagila!
Cheers!
Yep, I'd go with ToneStack as well. Its Spring Reverb has got more 'bite' to it than JamUp's. That slap-back sound. You can use the '65 VerbMaker from the basic $10 package with it's built-in spring reverb and tremolo.
edit: groovy demo! I hadn't seen/heard that one yet!
But if you accidentally bump into your iPad/ iPhone, does it do the same thing that the reverb tank does? THAT would be some impressive modeling! ;-)
@mrufino1 said:
the spring reverb in ivcs3 does that (and tremolo too).
No kidding! That's funny.
Lol, that's great!
Just tried iFretless guitar's clean bridge pickup through tone stack's Surf patch and it's really cool. Can't do the tremelo picking without using midi but possibly the spaggetti western/Wicked Game type thing.
Thanks everyone! Could I just buy the "Spring Forward" addon in ToneStack GO? I might get iFretless guitar too!
Very cool thread. Same Reverbs for a Jan and Dean/Beach Boys sound as well? I never knew the Surf style put that much Reverb into the guitar sound. I thought it was maybe a bit, and some type of Chorus effect.
Beach boys definitely did a lot with tanks and plates in the studio.
Nice work @yonac!
That ivcs3 reacts to being hit that way makes we wanna buy it. That's too awesome.
Nice thread
FWIW the guitarism electric guitar is a single-coil strat and if you turn off the internal fx and route to ToneStack (or whatever else you want) that should give you the signal chain you need. If you're on an iPad and enable the smart strings technique you might be able to pick fast enough to play Misirlou, though the palm muting effect won't be there (and getting the notes right would be tricky since the app is chords-based).
Try recording at a slower tempo then bring the tempo back up to speed.
@Martygras said:
The dirty little secret that enabled a whole lot of blisteringly fast guitar playing. Les Paul blew people's minds at first.