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Connect Arturia Minilab MK3 to Akai Miniplay MK3

How do I hear the Arturia MK3 if I don't use a computer or a phone? Can I connect it to the Akai which I can hear through an amplifier?

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  • @Cedesings said:
    How do I hear the Arturia MK3 if I don't use a computer or a phone? Can I connect it to the Akai which I can hear through an amplifier?

    The Minilab is just a MIDI controller, so I'm not sure what you want to hear from it

  • @Cedesings said:
    How do I hear the Arturia MK3 if I don't use a computer or a phone? Can I connect it to the Akai which I can hear through an amplifier?

    Unfortunatelly you can't . The Akai doesn't have midi input and doesn't support usb host mode to connect usb midi keyboards

  • @Cedesings said:
    How do I hear the Arturia MK3 if I don't use a computer or a phone? Can I connect it to the Akai which I can hear through an amplifier?

    What do you mean hear? As in hear the output of the iPad synths you’re controlling? I’m confused about what you’re wanting to do…

  • @HotStrange said:

    @Cedesings said:
    How do I hear the Arturia MK3 if I don't use a computer or a phone? Can I connect it to the Akai which I can hear through an amplifier?

    What do you mean hear? As in hear the output of the iPad synths you’re controlling? I’m confused about what you’re wanting to do…

    the Mini Play which is a (super basic) synth

  • @Korakios said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Cedesings said:
    How do I hear the Arturia MK3 if I don't use a computer or a phone? Can I connect it to the Akai which I can hear through an amplifier?

    What do you mean hear? As in hear the output of the iPad synths you’re controlling? I’m confused about what you’re wanting to do…

    the Mini Play which is a (super basic) synth

    I’m still confused. Are you wanting to use the MK3 to control the Akai or send midi thru it?

  • @Cedesings said:
    How do I hear the Arturia MK3 if I don't use a computer or a phone? Can I connect it to the Akai which I can hear through an amplifier?

    Looking at the specs, it looks like the MiniPlay does its midi over usb. So to route midi to it from another controller, I think you would need a computer or mobile device to route the midi from the arturia to the miniplay.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @Korakios said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Cedesings said:
    How do I hear the Arturia MK3 if I don't use a computer or a phone? Can I connect it to the Akai which I can hear through an amplifier?

    What do you mean hear? As in hear the output of the iPad synths you’re controlling? I’m confused about what you’re wanting to do…

    the Mini Play which is a (super basic) synth

    I’m still confused. Are you wanting to use the MK3 to control the Akai or send midi thru it?

    I don't , @Cedesings does . He wants to control the Akai but it's not possible without extra device

  • I saw a video where the composer of the song "Children" uses the Akai and the Arturia to make the song. I can hear him playing the Arturia. How? That's what I am asking. I need to be able to hear what is being played but there is no headphone socket from what I can see, only a C port.

  • I just need to hear what I'm playing. Why would they provide a keyboard on a controller if you can't hear what you're playing? The miniplay is a controller too but I can hear what I'm playing through the amp that it's plugged into.

  • https://homemusiccreator.com/can-a-midi-keyboard-be-used-as-a-regular-keyboard/#:~:text=MIDI keyboards can be used,sound sources to play sounds.

    Here it says that midi controllers with their own built in sounds can be plugged into some type of speaker system called a sound module. Maybe I could do that? I am 72 and just learning. Never too old. 😊

  • @Cedesings said:
    I just need to hear what I'm playing. Why would they provide a keyboard on a controller if you can't hear what you're playing? The miniplay is a controller too but I can hear what I'm playing through the amp that it's plugged into.

    The miniplay does not need another controller to play it. If you aren't sure how to get the audio out of the miniplay when played with its own keyboard, contact Akai support.

  • You would need a computer or an iPad to receive the output of the two keyboards via usb. The computer/iPad can at the same time be used as the sound module.

    Have a look at Loopy Pro. It would be ideal for doing something like what is shown in the video.

    With a base iPad you still get a headphone out. Otherwise you will also need an audio interface for the sound output.

  • Hi, regarding your confusion, most midi controllers do not make sound, they only send data, not on and off etc…. Some do, but midi and audio are two seperate th8ngs that always go together side by side in time….

    I have included some diagrams, look how the MIDI and USB DATA and AUDIO are routed around common setups. Note in complex setups MIDI is used for time control, But now we have a thing called ableto LINK whichnis sent via wireless connections and midi both I think * you can read about MIDI, Ableton LINK, and how Audio interfaces transform analog audio from say a guitar or mic or the audio output of a SYNTH / SAMPLER etc for recording into a digital environment or a DAW.

    there are devices that send out midi, and there are devices that send out audio and there are devices which send out BOTH audio & midi.

    It is important you understand that; Midi is a standardized information and data exchange format for sending the note on and off plus velocity and modulation parameters to computer instruments.
    MIDI is usually the biggest round connection BUT do NOT confuse MIDI for




    Here is a absolutely phenomenal group of products which use this midi data over BLUETOOTH so you can essentially CONTROL any musical app, synthesizer, sampler or drum machine on an ipad.

    https://www.cme-pro.com/widi-master/

    These things are cool because they make ANY controller keyboard, drum pad, piano, organ, or such which has a MIDI IN/OUT ( most the time and on all old gear from the MID 80s forward , all instruments had MIDI 5 pin jacks.

    Here are some ideas of bluetooth midi controllers….

    Starting in the 2010s companies started using those little 1/4 inch headphone style jacks to save space ( these are in two formats a & b ) * ignore this but just keep it in mind ….

  • Wow. That's a good explanation. Thanks so much. 😀

  • @Cedesings just adding on top of what's been explained above, and going back to the video you posted: both keyboards are exclusively MIDI controllers (you'll notice that the Akai is not just a Mini, not Mini Play). The "sound module" they're both using is the computer, with some audio software, that's shown at the top. The software in question is Ableton Live 11, a Digital Audio Workstation (usually shortened to DAW) which handles the looping aspect, along with Arturia software instruments.

    It's important to note that all of these pieces of software have to be purchased, in addition to the MIDI keyboard(s), although many times they will come with some lightweight version of them. This particular forum focuses primarily on iOS software, meaning that the "sound module" would be an iPhone or an iPad, to which you can connect a MIDI keyboard via USB.

  • @Grandbear: I am not sure if this is clear but the Akai MiniPlay Mk3 has onboard sounds.

    https://www.akaipro.com/mpk-mini-play

  • @espiegel123 said:
    @Grandbear: I am not sure if this is clear but the Akai MiniPlay Mk3 has onboard sounds.

    https://www.akaipro.com/mpk-mini-play

    Yep, I know about that one, it's just it isn't the keyboard that's being used in the YouTube channel that @Cedesings shared above

  • I have the Miniplay, so I thought maybe because it's a keyboard with internal sounds, I could control it with the Arturia. I don't think I can. Thanks so much for the last paragraph. That really made it a lot easier to get how things work. 😃

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