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Why isn't there any live vids/clips of people using Loopy Pro at a gig?
I'm looking to get setup with looping bass, drums, pads etc - turning things into a one-man-band sorta deal with a looper.
I'm heading into doing it with Loopy Pro, slowly setting it up how I want to so I can gig it with my Akai MPK Mini Play Mk3 and/or NI S88 Mk2, and acoustic guitar + vocals.
Jumping on YT.. there's plenty of demos of people looping with it, but I haven't found a single video of anyone at a gig, using Loopy Pro to do what I want to do.
Is there a reason for this? People just prefer hardware ie footpedal loopers etc.. or is there some issue with iPads and/or Loopy Pro that I'm unaware of?
I know it is a little annoying to have to bring a little interface for guitar/vocals (I've got a Focusrite Scarlett Solo for this), but it still seems odd that there's nobody doing it live at a gig.
I was thinking it was because people seem to need the metronome to kick things off, and even if you panned metronome L and the mix R, you'd have to have headphones for it to be workable which isn't practical at a gig.
Maybe there's more to it. In theory it seems like there shouldn't be any issues with using LP + maybe a footpedal MIDI controller for all my looping needs. Curious as to why there doesn't appear to be any vids of people doing it, at gigs.
I keep mentioning "at gigs" because I have no interest in people doing it at home or whatever, I want to see it being done on stage, live, with people watching/singing/dancing etc ie actual real-gigging-world use as that's what I want to be doing with it.
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There are plenty of people using it at live gigs. There could be any number of reasons they haven’t published videos (or you haven’t run across them if they did).
I’ve seen seen vids on the discord channel and the beta slack channel. Live performers discuss shows experiences from time to time there too.
That said, probably most people gigging with loopers are still using hardware. Hardware loopers have bee around for many, many years. Loopy has been around 18 months or so. If you’ve got something reliable that you’ve practiced enough with to be proficient enough for live work with, it’s a big deal to transition to something new.
There are plenty out there. Here are a few:
Cheers for the responses.
I guess I'm more after someone using it at a gig, in a bar/pub or something, maybe multi-instrumentalist, maybe just guitar/keys and vocals or whatever, anyway - @Michael has linked some great stuff.
The first clip (DUB FX) is beatboxing etc not really reflective of an ordinary pub gig so I scratch this off.
The second one (INKIE) has premade loops etc.. totally not what I'm after. Definitely want live loops, all done on the spot. It's also some guy in his bedroom - might sound weird but I really am after real-world, actually gigging stuff. Scratch this off but I guess it shows how things might work with premade loops or perhaps backing tracks.
After those we get into a few clips that actually show what I'm after, when combined.
Third one (Teardrop) - It's closer to how it might be used in a real situation than the above ones, though with headphones it makes it hard to gauge (wouldn't have those on, would be using a foldback - is it as practical then, considering potential feedback issues? idk what pickup or microphone he's using. But it's still obvious to see it can definitely be used live like this, without a metronome or footpedal MIDI controller.
Fourth one (Kristof) - bedroom again, but this is way closer in spirit to what I'm after - seems reflective of how things would go down at a gig, all appears to be live (obviously using samples but that's fine, different to just hitting play or whatever on premade beats). This is awesome.
Fifth one (Markus) - I've seen this one before, when I was looking up the Behringer MIDI controller, didn't even realise it was done using Loopy Pro at the time. Awesome, very much what I was after.
Sixth one (Loopy Pro Jam #8) - not far off how things would go down live, but there wouldn't be headphones, obviously. This makes me a bit ?? because I wouldn't want the punters to hear a metronome when starting things off in this fashion ie vocals first but this is easily avoidable by just starting with anything else.
Seventh one (Josh Elliott) - again, bedroom/home situation with headphones.. but it shows very clearly how things would go live.
Really, Markus is the only one that's actually what I was after - an actual live performance, playing in public.. but the others demonstrate other angles.
Seems _more _than capable of doing what I want (which isn't anywhere near as hectic as #4 or #6).
Sweet.
I should join the Discord channel. Very much interested in seeing what everyone's doing with it, and sharing what I do after everything is sorted out etc.
It’s likely a case that not every is a “tech head” and they’re more concerned with pushing their music than talking tech.
A lot of people I have known who write and play songs… really don’t care much about what they are using, if it’s working for them.
They see it like any tool, such as their guitar.
A chap I knew, he for years was using a very simple Boss 8 track and releasing his albums.
He wasn’t interested in talking tech.
"wouldn't be headphones obviously" is not actually obvious, in-ear monitors rather than over ear phones, so just in-ear phones, common as mud in use by performers of "real" gigs in real venues on real stages and that's how we get to use a clicktrack that audiences don't hear. If you're not going to spring for pro reference sounding in ears you can grab some KZ ZS10s which do the job perfectly for 50 quid.
(Seems slightly odd way of phrasing it, that only your pub scenario is a "real" scenario. But anyway
In-ears are pretty much a no-deal.
I play rowdy bars/pubs in a regional/rural area - I absolutely need to be able to hear the punters, lest I plan on dodging glasses. Total no-deal with in-ears.
If you incorporate what amounts to a an ambient "talkback" mic for the room/audience in to your setup, you can hear them just fine and the routing will only be in the balance in your in ears and not sent to FOH, you can turn them up or down in the mix to suit perfectly thus if you want you can hear them even more than without in ears
Jack Shepherd does these kinds of gigs a fair bit https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cuixg85glJT/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
@greatestlengths : the reason there are relatively few videos of people using loopy in-situ at gigs is that only a tiny fraction of musicians take videos of their gigs. So, gig videos are a small sampling of all people gigging. Given that hardware loopers have been around for decades, the vast majority of people gigging with loopers are not yet using Loopy pro as it is a very new product.
So, it isn’t surprising that there aren’t many videos of people’s Loopy Pro pub gigs.
OK, not in front of an audience but very much live and I think along the lines of what you’re looking for. Just payed by an active participant on the discord server.
Discord server invite: https://discord.gg/loopy-pro-922977925182132245
Here ya' go ... more than two hours of live loopy pro performance. Not in a pub, but not in a studio either. Sorry, no beer bottle dodging tho.
Sorry for the late reply - I've checked the clips you've sent out, this most recent one is bang on what I was after.
I've recently picked up a Nektar Pacer too, with an additional expression pedal and footswitch, oddly enough (he's using one in that clip) - I decided to try looping with a Mac and Ableton Live, or whatever DAW I liked most (Ableton seems the best for live use.. it is in the name, I guess, though Bitwig is awesome and I think I might just prefer using that)..
..anyway, I didn't even think to try my new MIDI controller with Loopy Pro. Going to explore that idea shortly, maybe I'll be able to post clips of my own use of Loopy Pro live in a bar/pub scenario.
My only concern using the iPad is I use Songbook Pro for setlists and it's very easy to bring up song requests in - not sure I'd be able to use it at the same time as LP because I only have the one iPad. It would be awesome if LP was available on my MacBook - I know it's "coming soon", haven't looked into how far away that would be.
I'm still going to hook the Pacer up and map out a basic layout for tonights gig, if I can get it done in time - I've got a BOSS RC-600 that I just hate. I absolutely hate the thing. I can't stress enough how much I dislike it. I owned one in the past, sold it to a friend, bought another one because it's the only looper at a reasonable price with that many inputs (so I can use it as an audio interface at home too), but it's a nightmare to work with.
If I can map out a basic looper with LP and the Pacer, I think I'll do that and just not take requests for songs I don't know tonight. Unless there's a way to get Songbook Pro up with LP on the iPad at the same time, somehow - or perhaps a way to midi map it so I can press a button and it swaps apps.. that would be cool..
Anyway, cheers for the links. I'm looking forward to trying out LP with the Pacer. I think it'll be an amazing combo.
@greatestlengths - be sure to toggle “Enable Network MIDI” off in Loopy Pro System settings. For some reason it can interfere with the Nektar Pacer.
You’re a far braver person than me if you consider going into a gig with something you just set up today. 😬