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Ableton Push 3 Standalone released !!!

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  • My P3 is finally in my grubby hands :)

  • edited June 2023

    Ok...

    This thing is amazing.

  • @drez said:
    Ok...

    This thing is amazing.

    👍

    What’s your favorite thing about it so far?

  • edited June 2023

    @drez said:
    Ok...

    This thing is amazing.

    lets go, if you have time try the collision device, add the mallet stiffness (ooh er misses) in MPE routing to the slide control 100%, have the actual stiffness (on the main GUI panel) setting at 50%. then play around. awesome sounds

  • edited June 2023

    hot take, Jeff Bezos is your friend when it comes to cheap assed Push 3 stands.

    plenty laptop stands will work if you measure your push.

    Remember to measure the distance of the four feet under the push.

  • @Danny_Mammy said:

    @drez said:
    Ok...

    This thing is amazing.

    lets go, if you have time try the collision device, add the mallet stiffness (ooh er misses) in MPE routing to the slide control 100%, have the actual stiffness (on the main GUI panel) setting at 50%. then play around. awesome sounds

    Funnily enough that’s the setting I left mine on yesterday while doing other work things in between occasional noodling

  • @mistercharlie said:

    @drez said:
    Ok...

    This thing is amazing.

    👍

    What’s your favorite thing about it so far?

    1. MPE: honestly, I was not drinking the MPE koolaid. I couldn’t see where it would be useful. I likened it to 3D where movies were just over the top with it and it was just a novelty but really just looked ridiculous. All the MPE stuff I hear sounds, to me, dumb and over the top. But I found myself sucked in to the way you can subtle change notes with very small movements…per note. You can give things a slight out of tune nudge and it really brings life to these patches. I got lost for a few hours just experimenting with the settings and seeing how to play it more like a violin where you have to be accurate or it gets out of tune quick. A very narrow correction or like 3mm.

    2. Pads: these pads are the best ever. I can do ghost notes by just swiping a pad barely. And double taps are no problem.

  • @Danny_Mammy said:

    @drez said:
    Ok...

    This thing is amazing.

    lets go, if you have time try the collision device, add the mallet stiffness (ooh er misses) in MPE routing to the slide control 100%, have the actual stiffness (on the main GUI panel) setting at 50%. then play around. awesome sounds

    I will give it a go! On the lake today with some friends…but I just wanted to stay home 😂

  • So just thought I should leave a quick update. I think I might have to return my Push 😕
    I have had no response from support for over 2 weeks. Updated to the most recent beta but the touchstrip issue still persists and the lack of real acknowledgment has been pretty disappointing. I have recently read that the return process is quite difficult which is worrying so I think I’m just gonna have to get ahead of it and bite the bullet.

    I really wanted to give Push 3 a proper go but in its current state, it’s just not worth the hassle. Really hope Ableton manage to pull this out of the bag in the end. This all seems somewhat similar to the launch of the Maschine+ and AKAI Force so I’m sure they will get there eventually.

  • edited June 2023

    @ronnieb said:
    So just thought I should leave a quick update. I think I might have to return my Push 😕
    I have had no response from support for over 2 weeks. Updated to the most recent beta but the touchstrip issue still persists and the lack of real acknowledgment has been pretty disappointing. I have recently read that the return process is quite difficult which is worrying so I think I’m just gonna have to get ahead of it and bite the bullet.

    I really wanted to give Push 3 a proper go but in its current state, it’s just not worth the hassle. Really hope Ableton manage to pull this out of the bag in the end. This all seems somewhat similar to the launch of the Maschine+ and AKAI Force so I’m sure they will get there eventually.

    Dont return it if you can help it. Someone already did that for several reasons including the touchstrip, and their replacement still has a touchstrip issue.

    And there is good news, Ableton support believe the touchstrip issue is a bug that will be fixed in firmware:

    https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?t=247613#p1812698

    "please bear in mind that at the moment our development team is actively investigating this issue with the touch strip.
    • It has been identified as a bug and our development team believes that this can be fixed with a firmware update - which they are working on.
    • Resolving this bug is one of our top priorities and we are working diligently to provide a fix as soon as possible on an update to resolve it.
    • At this stage, I don't have an exact date on when that will be released, but I will notify you as soon as this fix is implemented."

  • I do think it's annoying that Ableton don't even give an option/instruction on how to return the push yet? am i missing something or is there a link someone can post on how a return can be made @Tarekith ? Isn't it your right to just return a product no questions asked in the first 30 days?

    saying that I'm loving my one. I'm lucky not to have issues so far.

  • If you contact support and tell them you want to return your Push they will tell you how. The details change country to country.

  • @SteveElbows said:

    @ronnieb said:
    So just thought I should leave a quick update. I think I might have to return my Push 😕
    I have had no response from support for over 2 weeks. Updated to the most recent beta but the touchstrip issue still persists and the lack of real acknowledgment has been pretty disappointing. I have recently read that the return process is quite difficult which is worrying so I think I’m just gonna have to get ahead of it and bite the bullet.

    I really wanted to give Push 3 a proper go but in its current state, it’s just not worth the hassle. Really hope Ableton manage to pull this out of the bag in the end. This all seems somewhat similar to the launch of the Maschine+ and AKAI Force so I’m sure they will get there eventually.

    Dont return it if you can help it. Someone already did that for several reasons including the touchstrip, and their replacement still has a touchstrip issue.

    Yeah I get but I don’t think I’ll be going for a replacement model. I think I’m going to wait until a lot of the teething pains are sorted before I look to grab another one.

    And while I did see the response regarding the touchstrip issue online, I haven’t had that response myself and I sort of have my doubts because if they were indeed that confident it was software, why wouldn’t they at least inform the people who have an open ticket on the matter? At this point, that info I seems like it’s 3rd hand so I’m taking it with a good helping of salt.

  • @drez said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:

    @drez said:
    Ok...

    This thing is amazing.

    lets go, if you have time try the collision device, add the mallet stiffness (ooh er misses) in MPE routing to the slide control 100%, have the actual stiffness (on the main GUI panel) setting at 50%. then play around. awesome sounds

    I will give it a go! On the lake today with some friends…but I just wanted to stay home 😂

    how are your experiences going? different from mine as you have the standalone.
    I tried the tension device and its amazing on MPE.

  • On windows 11 with AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 8-Core Processor 4.20 GHz, 32GB RAM:

    I can aggregate audio devices Push 3, ICA4 and ES8 at 128 buffer 96 sample rate and it works fine, few clicks every now and again, but these are not recorded to audio in my test. The buffer rate is limited by the ES8.

    Does this mean its rock solid... absolutely not, can you use it in a professional environment... no way.

    its works though..


  • @ronnieb said:

    >

    And while I did see the response regarding the touchstrip issue online, I haven’t had that response myself and I sort of have my doubts because if they were indeed that confident it was software, why wouldn’t they at least inform the people who have an open ticket on the matter?

    Because there are likely hundreds of open tickets right now and it’s taking awhile to get to them all.

  • @Danny_Mammy said:

    @drez said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:

    @drez said:
    Ok...

    This thing is amazing.

    lets go, if you have time try the collision device, add the mallet stiffness (ooh er misses) in MPE routing to the slide control 100%, have the actual stiffness (on the main GUI panel) setting at 50%. then play around. awesome sounds

    I will give it a go! On the lake today with some friends…but I just wanted to stay home 😂

    how are your experiences going? different from mine as you have the standalone.
    I tried the tension device and its amazing on MPE.

    It is so good, I can't stop noodling :lol: I haven't even connected it to my computer yet. I've exploring the MPE settings based on the type of sound I'm using and style of music I'm experimenting with. What's kind of cool, to me, is setting the "left to right" setting of a pad as narrow as possible and play lines knowing they will be out of tune and the results have been very interesting. The fact that I can play notes with two hands, sparse chords, maybe even just two notes, but having the tonal movement available between those two notes that isn't possible without MPE is sooooo fun and unique.

    But I've been finger drumming on the MPE kits most of the time. The subtle changes with hitting the pads in slightly different spots is, imo, a noticeable change without MPE. Plus, those pads just feel so good...I have so much more expression with playing "quiet" that I didn't have on Push 2. My studio has been this...

    That's the coffee shop that I've been going to for a few years now. What's been really fun is having kids come upstairs where I'm at and I can feel them looking at it, so I ask their parent if I can let them play around on it. Showing them the MPE patches where normally, they have to bang around on the keys and I can say "no, just move your finger around a little bit" and watching their eyes with the headphones on is really fun to watch. They really listen to those changes. Also, I love having "scales" turned on so that they can't hit wrong notes. I only play in chromatic mode, but it's great for those moments.

    I think I'll be hooking it up to my computer this weekend and doing some more sound design stuff with the Expression settings. This video is a great overview of what is possible, things I haven't even considered. Andri is a master:

  • @drez said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:

    @drez said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:

    @drez said:
    Ok...

    This thing is amazing.

    lets go, if you have time try the collision device, add the mallet stiffness (ooh er misses) in MPE routing to the slide control 100%, have the actual stiffness (on the main GUI panel) setting at 50%. then play around. awesome sounds

    I will give it a go! On the lake today with some friends…but I just wanted to stay home 😂

    how are your experiences going? different from mine as you have the standalone.
    I tried the tension device and its amazing on MPE.

    It is so good, I can't stop noodling :lol: I haven't even connected it to my computer yet. I've exploring the MPE settings based on the type of sound I'm using and style of music I'm experimenting with. What's kind of cool, to me, is setting the "left to right" setting of a pad as narrow as possible and play lines knowing they will be out of tune and the results have been very interesting. The fact that I can play notes with two hands, sparse chords, maybe even just two notes, but having the tonal movement available between those two notes that isn't possible without MPE is sooooo fun and unique.

    But I've been finger drumming on the MPE kits most of the time. The subtle changes with hitting the pads in slightly different spots is, imo, a noticeable change without MPE. Plus, those pads just feel so good...I have so much more expression with playing "quiet" that I didn't have on Push 2. My studio has been this...

    That's the coffee shop that I've been going to for a few years now. What's been really fun is having kids come upstairs where I'm at and I can feel them looking at it, so I ask their parent if I can let them play around on it. Showing them the MPE patches where normally, they have to bang around on the keys and I can say "no, just move your finger around a little bit" and watching their eyes with the headphones on is really fun to watch. They really listen to those changes. Also, I love having "scales" turned on so that they can't hit wrong notes. I only play in chromatic mode, but it's great for those moments.

    I think I'll be hooking it up to my computer this weekend and doing some more sound design stuff with the Expression settings. This video is a great overview of what is possible, things I haven't even considered. Andri is a master:

    Awesome man!

  • Public beta testing is open for those that are interested: Push 3 Public Beta

  • edited June 2023

    Ned going a bit mad on Push 3.... later on in the video

  • Some touch strip and pad issues that probably got mentioned earlier in this thread have been sorted out nicely in a public beta release that is now available. I never lost hope that they could be fixed in firmware/software and indeed thats proven to be the case. I love this device very much.

  • @SteveElbows said:
    Some touch strip and pad issues that probably got mentioned earlier in this thread have been sorted out nicely in a public beta release that is now available. I never lost hope that they could be fixed in firmware/software and indeed thats proven to be the case. I love this device very much.

    Yeah, so happy for the folks like you that had that issue. Developers are wonderful things :)

    I also, love mine too.

  • One thing that I thought of last night was that, if you buy the Push Standalone and used to use a Push and laptop, then when you are performing, you now have a laptop free'd up to do whatever else you want, like dedicated to video app like resolume, lighting, mixing the band, whatever. OR you could have your Push 1/2 connected to your computer to control VST's that you couldn't load onto Push 3. All can still be sync'd up. Lots of options.

  • @Danny_Mammy said:
    to the small group of Push 3 owners here i notice a funny little bug with using the MPE control device (looks like a M4L device which comes with live) and the pads, i had one pad not working so well compared to the others..... oooohh no! then i notice i restarted Live and it seems ok. I will keep an eye on it and keep Ableton involved. so i guess if you get a pad issue try a restart of push and live before total panic.

    unfortunately, in my case it was not software, I had a hardware fault with the pad slide on a few pads, looks like the bottom row is the one to watch out for.

    I now received a second push 3 and the same pad slide issue on the first row of pads, specifically the first pad on the first row (A1 in a chess layout) . I have now got a refund.

    So deeply disappointed as I love this machine but it's very expensive so I just can't keep gambling (or wasting time) on a good unit to arrive.

    I would say that you must double check the first row of pads very carefully for slide issues.

  • A month or so in, and I'm loving the standalone. I find myself just booting up all the time and starting ideas. I've had a few that I have transferred over to my MacBook to move on to the next phase of development, but getting down ideas is wonderful. Gotta order some CV and Midi "pigtails" to hook up to my Elektron's and a Behringer Edge that should be coming next month.

    No regrets!

  • Also, I saw out at the Ableton shop where you can buy those pigtails, so I ordered them there.

  • @Tarekith said:
    Public beta testing is open for those that are interested: Push 3 Public Beta

    Is this a separate beta to the normal live beta? I’m on the normal beta so just wondering if there is any point joining here.

  • Also just for the record, touchstrip issue hasn’t showed it’s face again and it’s been pretty smooth since. Lots to iron out still but no showstoppers anymore. Main thing I’m waiting on now is a decksaver 👀

  • @ronnieb said:

    @Tarekith said:
    Public beta testing is open for those that are interested: Push 3 Public Beta

    Is this a separate beta to the normal live beta? I’m on the normal beta so just wondering if there is any point joining here.

    I believe you need to sign up separately for the Push beta, but I’m not able to confirm that at the moment.

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