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AI-powered app to turn loops into full tracks
Hey!
I did some research on apps using AI generation, hoping to find some that will help me to proceed with what I believe is the biggest problem of every bedroom producer: turn my "only a loop" projects into full songs. I always find it too exhaustive to write the full structure, add the fills, transitions etc to make it more "listenable". Often I struggle making a "B" section or I know something is missing, but it's hard to find something really matching.
I imagine more MIDI-based app, that'd input my existing notes and it would try to write ideally the full structure, or at least transitions (drum rolls, melody variatons etc) or variantons for B section etc.
Audio based might not be bad either, but I am a bit worried about possible artifacts and the sound quality in general.
I know about Riffer and Strokes, but they don't seem to work according to existing input, but correct me if I'm wrong.
There is this interesting project Magenta for desktop and Ableton Live: https://magenta.tensorflow.org/studio
Haven't tried it yet, but sounds like the closest to what I look for.
Any ideas? Do you already use some AI help to boost your production? I believe if there's a company that could help turning people's loops into listenable songs, they'd make a fortune 😉
Thanks for any input!
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I just play the loop for 8 or 9 minutes.
I certainly don’t want to have something do all the “thinking” for me. That’s the whole reason to create music. To express my own ideas. If I cede that to someone or something else then I’d sooner quit.
Art-wise, that’s a different matter for me. I’m OK handing off the duties to Midjourney and whatever comes next because I spent most of my life with that struggle and I already got it out of my system.
Well, it's not AI, but isotonik has a maxforlive device, that takes loops you created in whatever way and gives you different options to arrange them. I don't have it, but find it intriguing. The Thread title made me think of it:
https://isotonikstudios.com/product/song-sketch-2-pro-pack/
Might play nice with magenta, too.
I mean, you could do a lot with sticking a few loops in Loopmix and then playing around with speeds, sequences, which loops are muted at any given time etc. Not the answer you're looking for I know!
@skrat
Perhaps you just need some song templates
Perhaps for different types of music, edm DnB pop
That way you just drop ya loop’s etc in the correct places along the time line
Nice and quick, and then spend the time on transitions etc
So you can layout your track quickly
And then spend time making your own after you have the structure layed out
I know in NanoStudio 2 you can do this, Xequence also
Perhaps some people here already have templates they could share
That looks well interesting
@Krupa yes, I think at some point, I might get it, what kept me from it so far is, that maxforlive stuff used to crash on me a lot, but maybe that's passed, since I have a better laptop now:).
@Gdub
If I understand correctly, what you describe is a manual method very close to the automatic thing, that song sketch does
@tyslothrop1
Yep, that’s what I meant
More manual but with a timeline guide that might become second nature after creating lots of tracks
When I make my tracks ( according to my kids - noise )
Yes, just have your loops at different lengths and they will continue to shuffle over time.
This is what you are looking for:
It's called "a radio" and you turn it on and get finished music with no effort.
Not interested if it doesn’t have a randomize button…
Thanks for all the inputs, especially @tyslothrop1 for pointing out to some template-based generation. This one looks really powerful, although not using Ableton for a long time, so I'd prefer some iOS solution.
Also, laying down the structure is not so hard for, it's more the subtle variations and sometimes simply getting inspiration when in "writer's block".
As for comments about removing the creativity from the process, it's actually the opposite. To me, the creative part is the initial phase with sound design, first melodies and beats, but then to "stretch" it to longer length is the tedious part for me. Of course, depends on the genre, but I feel in my case such generation tool would actually boost my creativity.
Bottom line: I never liked any "randomize" or "generate from scratch" type of tools. I have tried many, but I like more control over my music making so I usually not use these features.
I always have trouble loading my own loops onto loopmix and I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong lol but I do like the app.
Watch my Loopmix vid? Shows how 😂
It now has drag and drop too
> Not interested if it doesn’t have a randomize button…
It's got a randomise button: the "station selection dial".
For some reason I missed that you did one! I think I definitely need to watch it lol thanks! Now time for a Strokes vid 😈 (just teasing)