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Song To The Siren, a Tim Buckley dreamy cover (shoegaze)

edited September 24 in Creations

One of the most beautiful song from Tim Buckley. This has been covered by so many artists since it was released in 1970. Some people believe that This Mortal Coil made the ultimate version of this song, and even though I like their version, I believe that the haunting quality of Tim Buckley’s original performance cannot be equaled.

Over the years, I tried many times to cover it in many different ways, but I am finally satisfied with the feel of this version. No dynamic here, for shoegaze ethereal atmosphere lovers.
As usual, iPad only.

Hope you will like it.

Comments

  • edited September 23

    Beautiful, I especially love the slide guitar, it creates a really eerie vibe that suits the song perfectly. Only gripe is that I would have liked the vocals a little higher in the mix.

  • @richardyot said:
    Beautiful, I especially love the slide guitar, it creates a really eerie vibe that suits the song perfectly. Only gripe is that I would have liked the vocals a little higher in the mix.

    I agree. The balance was hard to find. A lot of reverb and delays all over the place and so many things happening in the mid range... I tried to push the vocals in front but they ended up masking other elements. For the time being that's the best compromise I could find with my limited mixing skills. I might leave it like this for now and try to improve the mix a bit later. If you have any suggestions, please PM me ! Thank you for listening!

  • Agree with Richard!
    The vocals can actually come up in the mix.
    And the slide guitar is very nice.
    Looks like a very challenging mix to handle, but the important thing is the learning.
    I am enjoying the creation.
    Rene

  • @ReneAsologuitar said:
    Agree with Richard!
    The vocals can actually come up in the mix.
    And the slide guitar is very nice.
    Looks like a very challenging mix to handle, but the important thing is the learning.
    I am enjoying the creation.
    Rene

    Thank you for taking the time to listen. It is very kind of you to consistently listen to each creation on this forum and drop supportive comments. Thank you for being here !

  • Beatiful! 👏 Love the guitars. Are you using amp sims?. I’d love to hear about the effects and mix details.
    I agree with the comments above about the vocals, maybe there’s too much “atmosphere” and they loose definition.
    Nice one! 🙌

  • edited September 24

    @JanKun : very nice. i agree about the vocals being a little lost -- you mights be able address it without changing the volume of the vocals but changing the amount of reverb/delay on it (or on the other tracks) -- judicious use of a dynamic eq or multiband compressor might work to ever so slightly adjust where it sits.

    Fun fact: Song to the Siren is actually a pretty early composition. He performed it in 1967 on the last episode of The Monkees TV show.

  • The hardest part of becoming a singer is learning to overcome the natural dislike for your own voice. The best path is to expose your voice without reverb masking and get positive feedback from “your” audience. Every singer has an audience because each voice tends to be unique and each of us value different qualities… for me it’s pitch accuracy and I can tell you have that down perfectly. Hopefully without the need for dozens of takes but just naturally.

    I hope you revisit the mix and pull one or more vocal tracks out of the fog of reverb. It’s really a powerful track as is… very “Dark Side of the Moon” in it’s recalled experience.

    Please post that track with vocal over Staffpad orchestra that reminded me of the great VDP. That had a great vocal mix and that fact it’s in French just made the music more compelling.

  • edited 5:40AM

    @tahiche said:
    Beatiful! 👏 Love the guitars. Are you using amp sims?. I’d love to hear about the effects and mix details.
    I agree with the comments above about the vocals, maybe there’s too much “atmosphere” and they loose definition.
    Nice one! 🙌

    Thank you for listening.
    I used plenty of amp sims for this track.
    Here's the breakdown.
    There are basically three guitars, all played on my telecaster, fingerstyle (I rarely play with pick, only when my nails fail to give the power I am looking for). The first two are the foundation of the track playing arpeggios.

    Guit1 (left side):
    Nembrini PSA1000 JR + Nembrini BST100V2 (NORMAL CHANNEL) + NEMBRINI Delay 3000 + FAC Alteza

    Guit2 (right side):
    Overloud THU (CHP BOGIE FILL50 DLY Clean Rig) + DDMF ECHOREK2 + BLUE mango stratosphere reverb)

    The slide guitar is my telecaster played as lap steel on my knees with a Tone Bar:
    NEMBRINI minotaur + NEMBRINI HIVOLT 103 (BRILLIANT CHANNEL) + FABFILTER Pro-R

    The bass is played through NEMBRINI Blackice

    Drums are made using the Drumdrops Slingerland Drum kit going through microwarmer inside Auria + FabFilter ProR

    There are also 2 experimental tracks used to add texture to the track, made with Yonac Galileo 2, recorded live, hard LR panned, heavily tortured beyond recognition through a chain of effects including FabFilter volcano3, FabFilter Saturn and velvet machine and then applied EQ to smooth them a bit (these are pretty ugly and kind of scary on their own. Even though These are barely discernable in the mix they add something because if I mute them the feel of the track changes. you can hear them somehow at the end of the track. )

    Main vocals and harmonized vocals have their own instances of Mixbox with different effect chain for each.

    I applied FabFilter pro c2 on the master bus to glue the mix+ ProL2

    I guess that's it.
    Everyone seems to agree that the vocals should be more in front. It might be some kind of psycho acoustic phenomenon from my side but when I listen to the track, I only hear the vocals... or maybe my ears are completely dead 😀

  • Maybe boost the vocal circa 200 and 5000, and cut everything else at the same frequencies. But to me it sounds good the way it is.

  • edited 12:17PM

    @espiegel123 said:
    @JanKun : very nice. i agree about the vocals being a little lost -- you mights be able address it without changing the volume of the vocals but changing the amount of reverb/delay on it (or on the other tracks) -- judicious use of a dynamic eq or multiband compressor might work to ever so slightly adjust where it sits.

    Fun fact: Song to the Siren is actually a pretty early composition. He performed it in 1967 on the last episode of The Monkees TV show.

    Thank you so much for listening. I have always appreciated your presence on this forum, so I am glad you took the time to drop one of your kind and knowledgeable comments. I'll definitely give it a try. I went pretty nuts on effects on this track which was probably not the smartest thing to do. But I had a strange mixture of My Bloody Valentine, Galaxie 500, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Mogwai and Explosions In The Sky in mind while working on it. Most of these bands are not known for subtlety when it comes to delays and reverb, so I decided to go all the way in. Most probably a bit too far.

    Tim Buckley's performance on the Monkees TV show was my reference for this cover. It is beautiful. I didn't know it was recorded that early. My favourite album is "Goodbye And Hello" from that 1967 period with the gorgeous lyrics from Larry Beckett. I always thought Song To The Siren shared the same quality as most of the song on this album so it makes sense since they were all written around the same time. Glad to meet another Tim Buckley fan here.

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