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It gets scarier with every billionaire conman though.
Musk is definitely dangerous.
What about the rest?
The whataboutism never stops.
Asking what and why, is a basic human trait, from infancy, when we all start to reason, I didn’t implicate other ‘billionaire conman’, I just reasonably asked about those nameless other’s.
Your answer speaks to your critical thinking, please stop using knee-jerk, condescending, trendy terms.
@knewspeak : your post to which I was replying was literally “ What about the rest?”
I don’t think it is unfair to characterize a post whose only words were “what about the rest?” as whataboutist.
Yes my comment was a little vague in isolation, but in regards to the conversation quoted, not so vague, in other word’s what about the other billionaire conmen? Whataboutism it may be, but what of it, using ‘whataboutism’ as a means to truncate a debate, question, it is really an answer politicians use to not answer or sidestep a question. It’s really a sad thing to see and speaks volumes to the lack of quality in debates and journalism today.
Your comment was not just vague out of context.. it is vague whataboutism in context, as well. You’ve not clarified your point.
You were responding to a statement I made that I believe Musk is dangerous.
“What about the others” adds nothing.
Other people being dangerous has no bearing on whether Musk is dangerous.
I find this geek tragedy to also be a wonderful comedy.
Sure, but tbh I was not having much fun in the runup to the recent mid-term. I really thought there was a chance for the troglodyte faction winning both the house and senate and Ukraine getting squeezed as a result. But yeah, focusing on Twitter is absolutely entertaining I agree.
Your comment about about Musk being dangerous is vague, you offer little evidence as to why he is dangerous now, or previously. Twitter and the MSM echoing this, is increasingly creating it’s own narratives for political motives, that are in my absolute honest opinion disingenuous, these are MSM sources I once respected for their impartial stance.
A long but interesting summary of the war so far from the NYT:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/16/world/europe/russia-putin-war-failures-ukraine.html
At the risk of being too openly religious on this forum ...
This touched me.
Reminds me of a past war @wim
How come so many Russians fall out of windows?
They sadly trip on the narrative created by their government.
An interesting macabre note, research falling from ‘window’ as a form of assassination.
As NATO escalates its proxy war, someone calls for Peace.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-war-luiz-inacio-lula-da-silva-mercosur-olaf-scholz/
Wow, it all quiet on the war front, are you all lost for narrative. It’s like the phoney war, or are you waiting for the re-enforcement brigade of corporations to take over Ukraine, all funded by taxing the poor back home.
Tick, tick, tick, Boom…
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-bombed-nord-stream-gas-pipelines-claims-investigative-journalist-seymour-hersh-s730dnnfz
I couldn't read it as it's behind a paywall, but here is the original article by Seymour Hersh on Substack:
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
It's based on a single anonymous source, I'm open-minded as to its veracity: it certainly could be true. If so I would class it as a major blunder by Biden.
There is some pushback on Twitter:
This story is highly reminiscent of the disinformation wars around the chemical attacks in Syria. Many highly respected journalists such as Robert Fisk and John Pilger reported that the attacks were false flags committed by the Jihadi rebels, and it was pretty convincing at the time - it was very difficult to tell what was true and what wasn't.
It's really thanks to the efforts of OSINT that we know now for sure that those journalists were wrong, and that in fact the culprits were forces loyal to the Assad regime. With the tacit approval of Russia of course.
That doesn't mean Hersh is wrong, but until we know more the article should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Yes and some of OPCW findings are still highly disputed by many as to the barrel dropped by a Syrian helicopter with witnesses accounts, engineers and other white helmet whistleblowers stating no chemical attack took place, that was to be the original finding, much delayed until the very recent release.
The official conclusion is that it was the Syrian army that dropped the barrel. This is also corroborated by many independent witnesses:
https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2023/01/opcw-releases-third-report-investigation-and-identification-team
It's probably fair to say that the disinformation was a deliberate ploy to muddy the waters, and for years it did just that.
The situation in Syria was pretty messy: on one side Assad, and on the other a mixture of different factions which included ISIS and other Jihadi groups. Not many trustworthy parties here, so getting to the truth was exceptionally difficult.
It's no wonder that many people believed in the false-flag theory, it was highly plausible. It doesn't take much imagination to believe that ISIS might deliberately poison innocent people to further their aims. But then again Assad is just as capable of committing those crimes.
It's now pretty conclusive that Assad was responsible, as far as I can tell.
The first casualty of war? Good or bad, well wars are hell. Dirty tricks or false flags, don’t think a reasonable modern war for at least a century has been devoid of such behaviour, from any side.
I admire your calm approach, @richardyot.
Just two weeks ago, a Ukrainian acquaintance had to cancel his dentist's appointment because... well, he didn't actually need to cancel it, it was just not happening because the young dentist he was supposed to go to was among those killed by a rocket the invading terrorists targeted at the civilian population.
Putler apologists, bothsidesers/allsidesers, armchair analysts can all take a hike AFAIC.
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