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Mix bus
When creating a mix bus for Elastic drums, it ducks the audio of everything else.
Is it because its IAA and a faux multi out?
Or something else. Although the busses are correct ( I think ) Does it matter if across AUM channels if you started on say bus M and finished on bus A. So not in alphabetical order across AUM left to right.
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It would probably help if you posted screenshots that show how everything is set up or posted a video.
Direction and numbering have no effect. Is there a possibility you have a limiter involved somewhere? Is the original channel possibly doubled (by playing both the original and the bussed channel).
Screenshots or videos are the only way to avoid a lengthy question and answer / guessing session.
How to screen shot wim. Theres 27 channels. Zoom u44
Aum faders -06db
Some channels faders full.
A gain ( which you recommended ) at about -7.1
Drambo multi out 1-7
Channel 8. A drum bus with barricade. Sent to master, with a compressor, a barricade, then sent to a monitor channel with morphit.
Channel 9. A drambo sequencer for channels 11-16, then sent to master etc.
Channels 17-22 are 6 Elastic drums which go through drambo samplers to a bus then sent to master etc
Channels 23-24 are for volca drum and modular.
Elastic drums usually needs gain but in multi channel you can only have faders a 1/4.
The track from yesterday has some ducking I guess and with the elastic drums loud it seemed like an ear dominance battle and now elastic drums is quieter I cant notice but thats the prob, when elastic drums were bussed, it ducked the drambo track for sure like an mc at some disco.
A lot of drums.
7+6+6=19
I can't help you. I'm reasonably sure it has nothing to do with Elastic drums, and everything to do with something else in your spaghetti signal chain. One app can't duck others without some sort of limiting going on outside it.
Best of luck.
I made a screen capture but its video.
How to crop video to pictures for audiobus upload?
Thanks.
Post your video to YouTube and post a link here.
@sigma79 to screenshot you press the power and home buttons together. It is hard to tell what you are describing.
Thanks.
Not sure why i added Elastic drums. Dont really need pads for drambo so they are spare.
i would guess limiter or compressor on the master is causing the problem
I’d suggest making a much longer video to give us plenty of time to see what the set up is. You also should demonstrate the problem in the video.
Have you spent any time with a simplified set up to see if you can isolate the problem?
How so?
I will check again as it definately ducked audio when Elastic drums were sent via bus and not ducking when not sent but I will check again tomoz.
Buses don’t do ducking on their own. If you think there is an Elastic drums multiout issue. Start with an elastic drums only set up. Add elements one at a time to see what triggers your issue.
In any case, give us a better look (don’t pan fast) and demonstrate the problem. Or post screenshots of the setup and a video demonstrating the problem.
I haven’t watched the vid but it could be compressor/limiter pumping
You think its limiter and compressor?
With elastic drums. Usually volume is like other apps and even may need gain but with multi channel, AUM faders can only be a 1/4 which means it would have effected the compressor and limiter, when I was just testing via midi and it was way loud compared to drambo drums but I need to be sure as it could be there now db levels would be correct but just more suttle.
Wonder why its louder. I will switch of background audio for app in case its doubled.
With gains also. I have AUM faders set to -06 db and then a dynamics gain to -7.1 so faders can be full, so that on a midi controller the faders are like mutes ( mainly for drums ) and each synth has a volume knob on a seperate controller. Which means if drums need gain they are gained within app but also there is a limiter on drum bus plus a limiter on master and master volume fader isnt full but at normal AUM line level. Any peaks which I guess shouldnt be there anyway but in this case just on Drambo drums but not on master, seem the same as when I reset AUM settings to 0db and faders are on the white line. Does it seem like a dodgy setup? Mute faders seem good for live plus to audition a track for patterns.
Not sure if I need to have faders set to -6db if theres dynamics gain set to -7.1 db.
You probably have both the main elastic drums output and the individual outputs playing, which would make it twice as loud. With Elastic drums (and all IAA Multi-Outs), the main output carries all the outputs. So if you have that un-muted and you have the individuals too, then volume is doubled.
As explained above making a proper video that goes slowly enough to see the setup better and then demonstrates the issue will be invaluable. Screenshots would help, too.
Will switch off background audio as Elastic drums multi is just 1-6 anyway.
Can you record audio within a screen capture?
Does audioshare and aum record a master track without busses?
Thanks.
Yes, screen capture records audio. If you want to record a mix in AUM, you need a bus -- since recordings are of channels.
could be woott acting wierd, try delete woot on any track in aum and report back.. I had this with woott on a few tracks..kinda internal feedback thing going on
I think its fixed anyway but will record a screen.
The db I decribed setting may be a hinderence unless Im sure how it works.
Elastic drums was going through drambo samplers which are set to full, so that was adding the gain to elastic drums and needed aum faders to be 1/4.
Removed the monitor channel for morphit described in headphone thread, although I dont think its an issue.
Reloaded compressor and limiter on usual master bus.
Easily fixed without needing a thread but thanks though.
If it is fixed, there is no need to post a video. Glad to hear you have it working.
Will post. Dont think theres ducking. No tracks are complete.
First is volca drum. Its good for bass and has step jump like Gr 16. I think the drum although short sequences projects depth and it also sounds reverby maybe.
Then some Elastic drum samples, where I forgot to press link which allows stutter. Samples went chosen for goodness.
Then a beat in drambo along with the elastic samples, where there were ducking, inspired by McD but isnt at all complete and may just be a noodle. It was by adding jumps, which can end up being difficult to re sequence.
Good drum kit though.
Think theres an app which allows people to jam.
If I get good on drums will be looking for a synth specialist etc.
recorded with morphit, forgot to switch off.