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Patterning2 export problem

cfourcfour
in General App Discussion

Hi guys

Today I had a problem with Patterning2 that is driving me insane. I did this beat on a 5/8 signature. I had 10 steps in order to have 10 eighth notes (or 5 quarter notes)
These are the settings in Patterning:

and on the drum editor:

When I go to export the file it does not matter whether I do it as an audio clip or an Ableton file; the files never get treated as a 5/8 audio file.
If the file is opened in Ableton I get this:

So even when Ableton "recognizes" the time signature as 5/8 the clip signature is 4/4 (for all of them). And it certainly plays it in 4 bars instead of 5 (as the waveform shows).
On Logic the behavior is the same.
What I have realized is that both programs do the same, regardless of how I export the files in Patterning. Both (Logic & Ableton) open the file as a 4/4 file, but they do so because they somehow repeat the initial 3 beats of the original file and add it to the end (thus I end up with a 5/8+3/8). Therefore the file contains the correct 5/8 file (I drew a green bracket there) plus the 3 initial beats (red bracket, starting at the playhead). The final outcome is a 4/4 file extended over 2 beats (something like an 8/8 beat, instead of the correct 5/8):

If you go back to the Ableton waveform you can see the same happens there
Any ideas on how to solve this?
Thanks!

Comments

  • shinyisshinyshinyisshiny

    in ableton, adjust the clip time signature per clip. its annoying, but works.

  • cfourcfour

    @shinyisshiny said:
    in ableton, adjust the clip time signature per clip. its annoying, but works.

    Thanks for the reply!
    I tried that, but there is an extra issue with that "fix":
    If I have the wrongly tagged 4/4 clip:

    And I change the value to 5/8 I still get the loop end at the wrong position:

    So that would mean not only changing the clip time signature for each clip, but on top of that having to rearrange the loop end for each clip.
    I can easily have more than 50 clips... shouldn't there be an easier solution? I assume this is a bug on how patterning exports odd time signatures if 2 different DAWS show the same behavior.

  • shinyisshinyshinyisshiny

    hmmm, definitely strange. im going to try and recreate this and get back to you.

  • cfourcfour

    @shinyisshiny said:
    hmmm, definitely strange. im going to try and recreate this and get back to you.

    Thank you!

  • shinyisshinyshinyisshiny

    @cfour have you exported as "catch effect tail" its the only thing that worked for me

  • shinyisshinyshinyisshiny

    even that didnt fully work for all of the tracks, but it did work.

  • shinyisshinyshinyisshiny

  • cfourcfour

    In my hands actually exporting as "clip" or "render as loop" were better options than "catch effect tail"
    In "Clip" and "render as loop" I get the same problem as before, where the initial 3 beats are repeated at the end of the file (I have only tried 5/8 by the way):
    export as loop:

    export as clip:

    When I export as catch effect tail the beats are off (they do not fall in 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 etc but in random places):

    On top of that in order to save as an Ableton Live set there is only one option (render as loop)
    I guess it is a bug on Patterning2?
    Thanks for your help & patience!

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