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App [Auv3] with the best piano sounds?
Looking for something that works well in AUM that has a natural piano sound.
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BeatHawk acoustic grand is superb, and is still on sale? Ravenscroft by the same dev is considered best of class. Both are AUv3.
I can definitely second Ravenscroft
That’s a pretty penny
Goes on 1/2 price pretty often. The Beathawk piano is on a par with it. Salamander is a free sound font and was voted best. Not sure if it works with AUM. @McD?
What I like in Ravenscroft is the "Timbre shift" knob that allows for changing the character of the piano sound (duller vs brighter), plus fairly natural release samples and sympathetic resonance while holding the sustain pedal.
Probably the best piano you can get for $20.
Yes. Salamander is a free SF2 sound font.
https://sites.google.com/view/hed-sounds/salamander-c5-light
I usually load it with BS-16i along with a typical collection of other sounds that are included
in most SF2 packages. SF2's hark back to the era of General MIDI modules so they rarely package a single instrument... which in this case is a frustration. You want that piano in the AUv3 form and not a collection of 600mb+ audio.
I'll look for a Salamander in SFZ form and test it in the upgraded AudioLayer that loads SFZ's.
I find BS-16i to be a little fussy... probably due to the wasted extra RAM uses making it crash worthy.
Is there another AUv3 SF2 hosting app? Does Beathawk (currently free) also load SF2's?
Ravenscroft is rock solid and worth every penny if you play any solo piano or like the
Piano at the Taj Mahal sound in your ambient rambles. Always grab it when it's 50% off.
It has multiple piano models and even a ready to float ambient cloud instance.
I found a 2 SFZ Salamander Pianos here:
http://freepats.zenvoid.org/Piano/acoustic-grand-piano.html
Sound bank SFZ WAV 1.18GiB Best quality. 48kHz 24bit samples
Sound bank SFZ WAV 394MiB 44.1kHz 16bit samples
NOTE: They download in compressed Tar formats. How does IOS handle that? A desktop/laptop computer may be needed.
Let's see how AudioLayer manages the import and rendering and scalability in AUM.
Pure Synth Platinum has the best pianos - and a whole lot more for your money.
This site has a soundfont with single-instrument, full Salamander SF2 that takes up 592 MB:
https://sites.google.com/site/soundfonts4u/home
(scroll halfway down the long page and find the section, "4) Salamander Grand Yamaha C5")
That’s a good option for BS-16i then.
The SFZ site is s-l-o-o-o-o-o...
McD
Yes, SoundFonts by B-Ray Software
https://apps.apple.com/app/id1453325077
Ravenscroft sounds great and sadly is unusable for me in Cubasis 3
Ravenscroft here, love it
Wtf. How did I miss this one?
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Probably because it's pretty new. Did you notice the review from 04/17/2020 that complains because it doesn't (yet) accept midi input? Does that mean what I think it means, that you can only use the app's built-in keyboard? EDIT: Turns out that it accepts midi as a hosted au, not standalone.
But no MIDI input (and no landscape display on iPad).
Rc275 still the best.
@hes @mojozart
Aww man.
Buzzkill!
Thanks for the heads up.
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This is my most used instrument app. It covers so much ground especially with all the expansions now and crossgrade
When you load it as AUv3 in AB3, you can feed MIDI to it. I think it's really meant as an AU. The stand-alone wrapper is minimal. But it works fine for me as an AU.
Does nobody fancy Colossus Piano? I have the "Classic B Grand" (Steinway?) and it plays well. Multiple velocity layers range from gentle tinkle to all-out crash.
I’m a huge fan but I rarely bother to advocate for it due to expense, fragility and the ridiculous time it takes to install... still own 75% of the IAP’s and even the cheap grands are good in a mix. The Epianos
Are better than Neo Soul for my tastes. Exceptionally clean recordings with out the amp distortions. Every EP sold is represented all for $15 I think. Colossus is free and every IAP has an audio demo. If you like uprights there are 2 I think.
Crudebytes is showing signs of like lately.
, SoundFonts by B-Ray Software got some decent soundfonts bundled.. OK stuff for quick n dirty sketching. and its AU only.. so no standalone.
Yes. The $2 SoundFontsAU loaded in AUM and with the imported Sal-Stein-Uprights-Detailed-V3.0 is a great alternative to the Ravenscroft for me. I haven't given it the MIDI Kawaii keyboard test yet but I suspect it will be more than "good enough" to save the extra $32 and have an excellent collect of pianos to choose from.
I also started throw extra FX'es in to the mix: Magic Death Eye for some extra harmonics of a good time pre-amp, Parametric EQ to make it really dark like a German grand, Attack Softener to take some of the felt strike off, and FAC Alteza dialed way back to put it in a nice hall. But it's not required. In a mix you'd want to keep the attack and all the highs.
Just being able to switch between Yamaha C5, Steinway and all the bright, dark , resonant, non-resonant models for $2 is a great capability. CPU peaks with all the FX are around 70% for the 15 layer Yamaha C5 and 20% for the less detailed models. So, one for solo recording and a lot more for complex mixes.
Pure Synth Platinum does a reallly good job. AUdiolayer or bs16 with Sfz of Salamader. RavensCroft. And Beathawk IAP.
Hold on... so can Soundfonts be triggered by something in AUM or no? I’m slightly confused is the movie In or no? The @noob pic shows It in AUM.
I've tried the Salamander soundfont and it sounds good. But if I have the 'resonance' on and I play and sustain any note above, say, c7, maybe C6, the sustain turns into a loud hiss/white noise.
Can anyone confirm whether or not they experience the same thing? I assume resonance on is supposed to be a good thing for the best sounds. But that hiss really bothers me.
yaman
@Poppadocrock