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Any iOS apps that do midi round robin?
I’m using a couple max for live midi processors on my Mac that do round robin/real-time step sequencing. Trigger tune and Step melody. Send them any midi note and they trigger a row of pre assigned midi notes on a one to one basis. Anything like this on iOS ? A Mosaic patch perhaps ?
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Not entirely sure I understand the question. Could you provide an example, a link, or more details maybe?
I swear I saw a Mozaic patch that did that, but since I am not interested in that, I don't really remember which one. One of the sequencers on there.
Couldn’t find any videos. Here’s a description and download.
https://maxforlive.com/library/device/1636/stepmelody
What is "round robin"? Does this just mean that you're sending the row of triggered notes back to the same device that sent in a single note?
If so, there are many apps that generate multi-notes (typically chords) from single note, whether they're round-robin just depends on where you send the notes they generate. Chordial is one example of Mozaic app that generates multiple notes (chords) from single note: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/37368/chordial-a-chord-generator-for-mozaic-based-on-the-qu-bit-electronix-chord-module
If you want to generate melodies, not chords, from single note, I expect it would be easy to modify Chordial to do something like that. Or possibly there are apps that can be configured that way, not sure, maybe Chordbud or something in that class of apps. Chordbud website says, among other things, "You can either work with notes or chords. Select notes input for creating matching melodies or bass lines with your chord progressions." http://keybudapp.com/chordbud.html
Round robin is not about chords. Though you can make chords by layering several instances of them if you want. I find them invaluable because I’m an a electronic drummer who triggers bass/melodic lines with sticks and a limited amount of pads- not keyboards. Numerous D#s can come from one pad and yet each hit can produce a unique pitch. I am trying to see if I can do this within just iOS . If not - no big deal. I’ll just continue incorporating my laptop.
I’ll take a look at chordbud. Thanks.
What exactly is "round robin"?
Check out the “Cells” module in Rozeta by Brambos
Sorry posted previously by accident .
Real-time sequencing is another description of it. You decide what notes you want to play and then hit a single key/pad repeatedly and each time you hit that one key/pad you “step through different pitches /samples. Very efficient way of cheating if you can’t play keyboard or guitar. I think the original use of this was to play samples of dIfferent articulations of drum strikes to achieve realism rather than a machine drum effect with drum samples.
I have both Mosaic and Cells. Will check them out. Concerning tweeking a Mosaic patch- writing code boggles my mind! Hopefully someone much smarter than I has tackled this already.
If you are wanting to use a Mozaic script this one will play a different note on each incoming trigger note:
https://patchstorage.com/joc-melody-maker/
Otherwise I think StepBud can be triggered by incoming notes..
This looks really promising! Thanks!
Just in case any of the others might be useful. joc-melody-maker is one of a set of mozaic plugins that independently allow round robin of note pitch, velocity, note length and delay:
https://patchstorage.com/joc-melody-maker/
https://patchstorage.com/joc-velocity-massage/
https://patchstorage.com/joc-do-ya-len/
https://patchstorage.com/joc-lady-delay/
I usually send in rhythms using :
https://patchstorage.com/joc-euclidean-rhythm/
And all of them respond to program changes 0-15 (so that you can switch between scenes) and there is a plugin to fire those messages:
https://patchstorage.com/joc-pc-on-the-beat/
Can be a bit long winded to set up initially but easy enough to save a template project in AUM or whatever host your using.
Yes, iSpark. Not on MIDI level but on sample level, same effect.
You can import or record your own samples and set up max. 6 samples per pad in round-robin mode.
And surprise, iSpark is free atm! 😃
More advanced round-robin patches can be built in Drambo using slices in Flexi sampler or MIDI notes trigger-sequenced into the "multisampler".
These look really interesting. I’ll try them out. Might be an incredible MIDI toolkit for my next adventures in iOS. Looking to use these with live input- trying to stay off the grid. I’d rather provide my own phrasing.
Just got Drambo. Been using Impaktor for years via Roland pads and built in velocity> scale feature. Starting to build multi-layer physical modeling/fm/misc instrument racks. Maybe the next layer I can add is with flexi and multi sampler. Four layers of sounds per drum hit sounds about right!
Mozaic round-robin: https://patchstorage.com/round-robin/
Polythemus AU has a Round Robin voice allocation mode, I think Quantum sequencer might also have something like this I can’t recall.
Thanks guys. Will check them out and report back.
Not sure if it’s quite right but your question reminded me of this thread... https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/28821/senogrid-demo-of-sonogrid-triggering-senode
Yeah, Senode is what you are looking for and the dev said he is working on AU support back around Black Friday sale. We'll see about that, but it would be awesome.
@wim has an updated version of this script that works much better (it resets the sequence when a new note is struck). If you find that this script does the trick but find it maddening that it doesn't reset with a new note, let us know here and I'll copy/paste the script in here for you.
Like you, I am off the grid so I have been on the same search as you for a long time. I control sequences using foot controllers just as you do with pads.
I do?? Ha, I don't even remember ever doing that.
LOL! Here it is:
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/32930/mozaic-create-your-own-au-midi-plugins-out-now/p70
Ahh, I remember that now. Maybe I should go ahead and post that on patch storage even though it's only a small modification of Bram's patch.
I think you should as I think it's what most people expect from "round robin". I call it "rounder robin" in my local Mozaic list.
Perfect - I’m gonna steal that name just like I did the rest of the script.
https://patchstorage.com/rounder-robin/
polythemus , maybe? https://apps.apple.com/de/app/polythemus-au/id1439815017?l=en
@Jocphone @hes @jolico @wim @rs2000 @bleep @lukesleepwalker
After checking everything out, the only app that came close was the joc-melody maker. Unfortunately it is confined by scale and directional input much like the Mandala drum(cool drum controller from the 2007 era).I want to freely assign any note to any step. Calling what I wanted a round robin probably wasn’t the best way to describe it- it IS changing notes when receiving a midi note but isn’t the classic user case. I’ve heard some call it a real time step sequencer but even that isn’t ideal.I’m not looking for random notes and definitely don’t want a sequencer running.
THIS is what I’m looking for:
https://maxforlive.com/images/screenshots/?ss=stepMELODY-1.jpg&id=1636
https://maxforlive.com/library/device/1636/stepmelody
Thanks for everyone’s input!
Sonic Bloom also has an excellent one.
https://sonicbloom.net/en/triggertune-by-max-for-cats-free-one-button-melodic-step-sequencer/