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That is what I was describing at the beginning of this thread.
But I keep the IAA loaded on one track, and create new Audio tracks to drag my recorded audio to.
Ahh. That’s another cool workaround I hadn’t considered. Nice one. I will try that method out too.
I was wondering if anybody else had addressed the IAA part of the question, but I didn’t have time to read through all the replies. ✌️😉
Andrew I made a video for you showing what a ground loop sounds like:
I start the video with a ground loop, remove it and then bring it back again.
It sounds MORE correct in JUST Amplitude but not as correct as I think it should. Example: I've tracked electric guitar on a friend's project some years back, and I've played through an amp using headphones when I've lived places where playing through the amp speaker wasn't always an option. In BOTH cases, I could hear the amp sound clearly, clean, and completely through the headphones. I couldn't hear playing the guitar outside of the headphones. In both scenarios I didn't have to turn the headphone volume past 40% usually %25-%30 was good. To accomplish this in Amplitude I've got to be maxed out on the amp I'm simulating with headphones nearly maxed out. That is incredibly dangerous for my hearing. FYI, I haven't played for any length doing this, just tried it for half a second as a test. Speaking of my hearing, I don't have to turn up TV, podcasts or music loud to hear it how I want to. So I don't think I'm dealing with a hearing issue.
To my discredit, I haven't tried IAA with Amplitude. Since you can only use an IAA track once per app I've always gone with Audiobus. I'm taking today and tomorrow off recording-wise as I've had some minor ringing here and there in the past two days so I'm resting my ears. The weather where I live is hell on sinuses too so it's likely just from that but better safe than sorry.
When I get into the weeds again I'll try IAA and report back.
Tried that yesterday. Nothing
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The firmware released in January. I bought mine in May-June. The firmware I installed was the updated version (that is still marked as the latest release as of two days ago) of which you speak. You owe me a ham sandwich
Good to know. Feel really dumb for not reasoning that one out. Thanks.
@Andrew430 : until you get it sounding 100% correct in AmpliTube adding additional complications is going to make your problem harder to diagnose.
At this point, I think you need to suss out your input levels. As someone suggested, it may be that only one of your interface's inputs is set up for a guitar-type signal.
You also might want to debug without AmpliTube and just have your guitar going into AUM . Adjust your signal on your guitar and interface to get a decent signal level and record it. Post the recording and we might have a sense of what is going on.
Here's where I stand.
While I've yet to connect Amplitude to Cubasis using IAA instead of Audiobus, even when playing through just Amplitude there simply isn't the minimally acceptable volume and tonal quality I expect to hear. IMO, it should sound--or at least be a hell of a lot closer to sounding--as if I were tracking a mic-ed amp that I was monitoring through headphones or just playing through an amplifier using headphones. Meaning, I should be able to hear the tonal/volume character of the amplifier I'm simulating and effects I'm using as clearly as I could if I were in a room with that amp and those effects at no more than 60% volume through my UR22MKII-connected headphones. ESPECIALLY when I've got the guitar maxed AND the simulated amp maxed. The level reader in Amplifier shows the signal in a consistent yellow range, but if you didn't know that and just had to guess by hearing I'd wager most wouldn't think it was more than a 40-50% signal.
So even if IAA provided a better connection to Cubasis, that won't matter, because this issue of weak sound is occurring when just using Amplitude too.
There's also the fact that when I turn the source knob on the UR22MKII all the way to source/instrument all I get is a dark, low, muffled sound with barely any presence at full headphone volume. All three of the guitars I've tried have Humbuckers and sound perfectly fine plugged into real amps and other interfaces/software. This leads me to suspect the headphones might be damaged. It's the only logical conclusion given that every other potential cause has been addressed and remedied in the way it should be.
Luckily I bought the warranty plan at Guitar Center and it guarantees me a full refund towards a store credit. Their $50 AT MX20s. I've read good reviews saying the AT-MX90s are the best in their class at $100 with some reviewers claiming they are the best overall until you get into the $500 range. Any of you use these?
And, in the event that even new headphones don't fix this then I don't see any other logical conclusion other than the Steinberg is inadequate or I have a defective unit. If it comes to that what would you suggest? I'm interested in the Focusrite Scarlet. It seems to have a pretty devoted following.
Also, while I have your attention, I have to give up these loaners in the next month or two so I'll be in the market for a new electric and possibly a midi controller budget permitting.
The songs I'm working on are primarily major key synth rock/pop, 3 of the 5 are based on chord riffs where the melody comes from me playing power/add 5 chords (Drop-D tuning btw) and the harmony from hammer-on/pull-offs on the D string. I wrote them on acoustic though and there I could hear everything I was doing clearly in recorded Garageband demos using only built-in iPhone/pad mic. What type of electric guitar would give me both the power and intonation I need? Because of the three I've tried so far (Strat, Casino, Custom Tele; all with humbuckers) the Low E and A drown out the hammer/pull I'm doing on the D. Yes, I can also overdub, and even if it comes through great will probably still need to but I still need the hammer/pulls to come through clear enough so that I know WHERE to overdub.
Thank you all again. There's no music scene where I live besides cover-bands, and even the people who claim to want to write/record songs just end up fucking around and getting nothing done. I'm glad I found you all.
Nah! Not dumb at all! There’s tonnes of things to learn with iOS apps. No question is too big or too small. That’s what the Forum is all about.
Good luck with your music and recordings!
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I am using Channel 2 with the Hi-Z switch. It's the specifically mentioned guitar channel input.
Something else I forgot to mention...When I'm using Amplitude by > @Michael said:
Audiobus says its disabled and nothing happens when I touch/click on it
Tried IAA with Amplitude. Sounded slightly better for 30 seconds. Then it crashed. Over and over and over...
when you say samples buffer do you mean the latency settings in Audiobus?
Also, in Cubasis, what does the Large Recording Buffer do/mean?
It did...moreso anyway...for 30 seconds then crashed every time
If you'd like to send me the crash logs for AmpliTube, @Andrew430, I can pass them along to the developers.
Maybe I'm using 'crash' wrong. When I play Amplitude through Cubasis using IAA, it works for about 30 seconds then Cubasis gives me a message ostensibly saying, "This app has become disconnected/stopped working. Close the app. Then re-open it to connect to IAA" I'm paraphrasing. I'll try tomorrow and get you the exact verbiage. Thanks for caring.
That sounds like a crash to me! You'll know for sure if you see AmpliTube in the list of crash logs.
I'm using battery power. I don't have a continuous noise but sudden cracks and pops while playing or adjusting volume/tone knobs. The guitars are borrowed and the owners' have told me there are wiring issues with each of them.
Where would I look? In Cubasis or Amplitude?
How can I make a video of me using my setup like you have so you can hear exactly what I'm talking about
The iPad has a screen recording feature. google for info on how to use it. It is in the control center.
Are you using the current iOS?
https://audiob.us/help/#crashes
The crash doesn't happen using Audiobus. Only with Cubasis IAA connection to Amplitude.
Yes. will do
Got it. thanks
Learned how to do a screen video with audio. I'll get you an exampled in the next couple of days. Thank you
And let us know which iOS you are running.
That's okay, I can still pass the crash log along to the Amplitude people, if you want. Your call though, I'm just trying to be helpful