Logic as Master AUM as slave?

After spendings hours testing combinations, watching YouTube’s and scouring other sites about sync between Logic Pro and iOS I found this wonderful site here. I’ve spent a lot of time scrolling and reading and learning some fantastic tips but I can’t find the answer to my question.
Here is my dream -
Logic connected to iPad Pro with iconnect audio4 as interface. AUM on the iPad chases Logics timeline position and syncs with Logics tempo so I can use AUv3s in tempo.
Without going into more detail about all the tests I’ve done (and I’m a logic user since the Atari) can anybody tell me if it’s possible to do this before I go mad from trying?
Thanks!

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  • edited June 17

    I am not 100% on this but...

    1) I think the new Logic update out in the last few days has some comprehensive options for sending out MIDI sync to different ports - so that is going to help.

    2) I think AUM does not do MIDI sync - but Audiobus 3 does - so you should be able to use Audiobus to sync AUM

    But I am sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in :smile:

  • edited June 17

    Nvm.

  • AUM doesn’t do midi-slave yet, but as mentioned, Audiobus can bridge the gap. Set it to receive MIDI clock, and enable Link and Link Start/Stop in both Audiobus and AUM. AUM will follow tempo change and start stop without a hitch.

    But song position? Not gonna work. You can do some tricks, such as sending a midi message or note to AUM to trigger clips, etc.

  • edited June 17

    You can try using this app, use logic clock out to AUM link.

    MIDI Link Sync by Coding Cod Ltd
    https://apps.apple.com/nl/app/midi-link-sync/id1071048493?l=en

  • I doubt Link will be good enough latency wise but the plus side is it does some kind of buffering so it's fixed latency.

  • wimwim
    edited June 17

    @BroCoast said:
    I doubt Link will be good enough latency wise but the plus side is it does some kind of buffering so it's fixed latency.

    Midi clock to Audiobus, Audiobus to Link. Latency should be very small, since it’s in-device, not over the air. But I’m no expert and am not super particular either.

  • @wim said:

    @BroCoast said:
    I doubt Link will be good enough latency wise but the plus side is it does some kind of buffering so it's fixed latency.

    Midi clock to Audiobus, Audiobus to Link. Latency should be very small, since it’s in-device, not over the air. But I’m no expert and am not super particular either.

    It depends what they're doing. The Latency increases with Link as the processing demand increases. From my experience going from external MIDI clock to Link is not very tight, either with IDAM or serial MIDI. Just AB slaved to MIDi clock however is very tight.

  • wimwim
    edited June 17

    @BroCoast said:

    @wim said:

    @BroCoast said:
    I doubt Link will be good enough latency wise but the plus side is it does some kind of buffering so it's fixed latency.

    Midi clock to Audiobus, Audiobus to Link. Latency should be very small, since it’s in-device, not over the air. But I’m no expert and am not super particular either.

    It depends what they're doing. The Latency increases with Link as the processing demand increases. From my experience going from external MIDI clock to Link is not very tight, either with IDAM or serial MIDI. Just AB slaved to MIDi clock however is very tight.

    And I still say AB MIDI clock to Link sync (especially when sending to AUM hosted in it) is tighter than a gnats ass.Though I have to admit, I don’t have any actual gnat’s ass measurements to back that up..

  • Alright! Thanks for all the clues.
    I gathered that Midi Timecode is not part of AUM or Audiobus (for now) so frame accurate sync and chase won't happen, but I can live with the drifting of Midi Clock if I can get that going. I'll try the suggestions here and report back in case others want to know how I got on.
    Thanks again all!

  • edited June 18

    @Manfromglass said:
    After spendings hours testing combinations, watching YouTube’s and scouring other sites about sync between Logic Pro and iOS I found this wonderful site here. I’ve spent a lot of time scrolling and reading and learning some fantastic tips but I can’t find the answer to my question.
    Here is my dream -
    Logic connected to iPad Pro with iconnect audio4 as interface. AUM on the iPad chases Logics timeline position and syncs with Logics tempo so I can use AUv3s in tempo.
    Without going into more detail about all the tests I’ve done (and I’m a logic user since the Atari) can anybody tell me if it’s possible to do this before I go mad from trying?
    Thanks!

    Maybe I’m not completely understanding this, but you can do this with IDAM, though I haven’t tried with AUM, only with Auria Pro and Audiobus 3. I have the LPX MIDI regions being sent to an Auria Pro/AB3 channel that has some sort of AUv3 instrument. The sound is then sent back to LPX. It all plays in sync with LPX.

    The only caveat is that the MIDI region must be in LPX. I haven’t figured out how to do the other way, such as send MIDI from Xequence or Rozeta to play ES1/2/M.

    EDIT: When recording into LPX there also tends to be a little bit of latency which means I have to go to each recorded audio file and nudge it a little bit to the left.

  • edited June 18

    To the best of my knowledge, the only "DAW-like thing" that will currently sync to song position (SPP -- NOT MTC!) on iOS is Beatmaker 2. As crazy as that may sound.

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