Devs - Hit us with some weird fx pedals

So many amazing weirdo pedals out there these days. Would love to see a dev make some borderline clones for iPhone. It’s possible to use existing apps to approximate a lot of this stuff but in most cases in a much more complex fashion and way less ‘quick tweak’ UI than you’d typically find on a guitar pedal with only a handful of knobs etc. And the pedals that you ‘do’ find in iOS tend to be basic traditional models...

I don’t think there exists a guitar pedal app that really digs in to this ‘experimental pedal’ area?

Simplified pedal style UI’s (as opposed to complex app gui like FieldScaper etc) but with broad ranges for organic experimentation. A clear gap in the market imo. Especially considering how powerful iPhones are now. Even an SE could probably run a good quality dsp replica of most complex modern pedals individually...

So devs, please someone make a guitar pedal app that just has one pedal fill the phone screen and offer IAP for pedal models :)

Some pedal models inspired by some of these pedals would be amazing to have on iPhone/iPad -

Tonal Recall
Infinite Jets
Tensor
Particle V2
Stretch Weaver
Rainbow machine
Dark World

Etc...

Thanks :)

Comments

  • Sounds like a good idea to me. I’m all for whacky effects.
    This reminds me how lucky we are. Some of these pedals are very expensive in the land of hardware.

  • @robosardine said:
    Sounds like a good idea to me. I’m all for whacky effects.
    This reminds me how lucky we are. Some of these pedals are very expensive in the land of hardware.

    Yeah some incredible software effects available these days. And things like Mutable Instruments code being open source...seems like the early days of a new era in some ways if things like Minilogue XD and Organelle are a sign of the direction things are headed.

    An app that was full of really interesting pedal (and modules maybe?) clones would be amazing. And would also be able to improve on some of the above pedals by offering stereo (for use with synths and stereo samples etc).

    I’d gladly pay £20+ per pedal if the above ones were really accurately mimicked...

    Wouldn’t even need to be AU from my POV. Though obviously being able to use them also in hosts for internal sound processing would be a bonus.

  • @EyeOhEss said:
    Tonal Recall
    Infinite Jets
    Tensor
    Particle V2
    Stretch Weaver
    Rainbow machine
    Dark World
    Etc...

    Sorry I don't know any of them. What kind of effects do they provide?

  • edited April 13

    @rs2000 said:

    @EyeOhEss said:
    Tonal Recall
    Infinite Jets
    Tensor
    Particle V2
    Stretch Weaver
    Rainbow machine
    Dark World
    Etc...

    Sorry I don't know any of them. What kind of effects do they provide?

    Would take a long time to go through them all and try to do them justice via descriptive words, Easier to convey via videos :) ‘Knobs’ normally does nice demos, I think he’s covered most of them (and plenty of other candidates...) on his YouTube channel :)

  • @EyeOhEss said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @EyeOhEss said:
    Tonal Recall
    Infinite Jets
    Tensor
    Particle V2
    Stretch Weaver
    Rainbow machine
    Dark World
    Etc...

    Sorry I don't know any of them. What kind of effects do they provide?

    Would take a long time to go through them all and try to do them justice via descriptive words, Easier to convey via videos :) ‘Knobs’ normally does nice demos, I think he’s covered most of them on YouTube :)

    OK. Please give me some more time :D

  • @rs2000 said:

    @EyeOhEss said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @EyeOhEss said:
    Tonal Recall
    Infinite Jets
    Tensor
    Particle V2
    Stretch Weaver
    Rainbow machine
    Dark World
    Etc...

    Sorry I don't know any of them. What kind of effects do they provide?

    Would take a long time to go through them all and try to do them justice via descriptive words, Easier to convey via videos :) ‘Knobs’ normally does nice demos, I think he’s covered most of them on YouTube :)

    OK. Please give me some more time :D

    :) feast your ears :)

  • I quickly stepped through that list on YT and completely fail to find any reasonable live/stage use for guitar - except you put them on a table to spice up a Eurorack or something like that.
    You can tweak and sample the result, but that's the same with a regular IOS setup.

    In fact a 'regular' setup based on AUM would be much more practical as you can insert midi controls to tame the mess and save states of settings.
    There's enough reverb, delay, filter, envelope and granular stuff available to replicate what any of these pedals could do.
    It's all about control... and this is a very individual thing for each player and his/her style.

  • edited April 13

    @Telefunky said:
    I quickly stepped through that list on YT and completely fail to find any reasonable live/stage use for guitar - except you put them on a table to spice up a Eurorack or something like that.
    You can tweak and sample the result, but that's the same with a regular IOS setup.

    In fact a 'regular' setup based on AUM would be much more practical as you can insert midi controls to tame the mess and save states of settings.
    There's enough reverb, delay, filter, envelope and granular stuff available to replicate what any of these pedals could do.
    It's all about control... and this is a very individual thing for each player and his/her style.

    Most of those pedals are aimed at experimental guitar/synth/sampler kind of use. Lots of interesting sweet spots to explore within minimal UI’s. But lots of practical, more subtle applications to be had with them also ;)

    Yeah you can chain stuff to get similar kind of processing. But doing that in AUM on an iPhone can often be more fiddly hassle than its worth. And in most cases even with multiple Apps to flick between and ton of shrunken parameter knobs, you won’t get exactly the same signal>processing interplay and focused functionality as the above pedals. Same as you can chain a bunch of physical pedals together to vaguely mimic these physical pedals to, but it’s not the same ;) Neither in having a convenient ui or in the resulting sound.

    I’m hoping for an app that literally is just one pedal at a time on screen. All portrait mode. All very iPhone friendly. All with minimal GUI, just a few knobs in most cases..

  • Yes, I fully agree that an iPhone lacks screen estate beyond a single pedal surface.
    On the other hand dedicated virtual pedals don't cover amp simulation and routing.
    They will bring the advantage of saved states, though.

    This doesn't solve the problem to insert an iPhone process into the effect path of a real amp.
    Such amp fx-loops are mono by nature, so everything with reverb and delay is rather useless.
    An interface will be required which increases the size of the solution.

    Imho a virtual amp plus virtual effects fed into a PA system (by an interface) provide a more versatile setup - an iPad (full size or mini) doesn't add much to system size (defined by the interface and cabling) in comparison to a mobile phone.
    Mounted to a mic stand it's a fairly accessible and full pedal control isn't an absolute requirement. This applies to both studio and stage use.
    (I always preferred to record with an iPad that way - and never used my desktop DAW)

    As mentioned above no 'pedal app' can solve the real-world amp mono problem - and it's a true challenge to adjust effects in a way they sound great in mono, that's far from trivial.
    For stereo output (as we're used to from fx) you need Audiobus or AUM to melt your favourite apps into a solution - be it existing apps or new 'pedal apps' ;)

  • edited April 13

    @Telefunky said:
    Yes, I fully agree that an iPhone lacks screen estate beyond a single pedal surface.
    On the other hand dedicated virtual pedals don't cover amp simulation and routing.
    They will bring the advantage of saved states, though.

    This doesn't solve the problem to insert an iPhone process into the effect path of a real amp.
    Such amp fx-loops are mono by nature, so everything with reverb and delay is rather useless.
    An interface will be required which increases the size of the solution.

    Imho a virtual amp plus virtual effects fed into a PA system (by an interface) provide a more versatile setup - an iPad (full size or mini) doesn't add much to system size (defined by the interface and cabling) in comparison to a mobile phone.
    Mounted to a mic stand it's a fairly accessible and full pedal control isn't an absolute requirement. This applies to both studio and stage use.
    (I always preferred to record with an iPad that way - and never used my desktop DAW)

    As mentioned above no 'pedal app' can solve the real-world amp mono problem - and it's a true challenge to adjust effects in a way they sound great in mono, that's far from trivial.
    For stereo output (as we're used to from fx) you need Audiobus or AUM to melt your favourite apps into a solution - be it existing apps or new 'pedal apps' ;)

    People use fx pedals and software fx for a lot more than just guitar>amp these days though ;) I’d hazard a guess that 50% of fx used by people in software and hardware aren’t followed by an amp. Maybe even more... I have zero stats to back that up tho ;)

    iPad size is ok when space/situation allows but being able to convert a current/old phone in to a boutique pedal for desk/modular use or subtle on a pedal board really appeals to me :)

    Re interface etc. A behringer or Roland interface and an iPhone velcro’d on top of it is still smaller than a bunch of common pedals (timeline, whammy etc etc).

  • EMS Synthi Hi Fli would be cool!

  • Deff! Then I can finally put my pedals away and be pure iOS

  • edited April 13

    @Telefunky said: As mentioned above no 'pedal app' can solve the real-world amp mono problem - and it's a true challenge to adjust effects in a way they sound great in mono, that's far from trivial.

    I was just pushing mono drum samples through logics amp designer to make more mono samples
    that was easy as apple pie, got usable stuff in seconds just playing with the mic positions :)
    just saying

    if you are after mono signals anyway just mono the sum down so you never hear the stereo fluff while tweaking?
    maybe I don't understand "the problem"?

  • edited April 13

    @nerVe said:
    EMS Synthi Hi Fli would be cool!

    have you tried ivcs3 as effectbox?
    it doesn't do octave down but sure does weird filter/reverb/amplitude modulation/ ring modulation/delay/flanger in whatever combination ... B)
    sure doesnt sound like anything you fed into it o:)
    lfo anything until the cows come home B)

    I made presets for this, look for input/output fx ... and load them into an fx slot as starting point

    some example with speech
    giving good old William S boroughs some cut ups and EMS workout B)

    btw. this has excellent control over the stereo stage ...
    stereo panning/spread, mono panning
    anything you could possibly want

  • These apps are needed to save the world from choking on used 9V batteries.

    I tried making a iPhone/iPad Touch screen button that I could glue over the buttons so I
    could touch them with my foot. My prototype was a compressed ball of aluminum (al-you-min-ium) and a barefoot. Risky but maybe someone can recommend a more spongy "conductive" material. Would the foam they pack circuit boards and RAM work cut into the right shape? This might be cool for Loopy HD too.

    The Apps from @Alex_bialamusic are the Apps that inspired me to put my iPhone on the floor. The "Alien Box" is one of my favorite FX'es in general... it's subtle but nothing else seems to do what it does. Maybe some of the esoteric FX in ToneStack that have that Univibe sound.

    I'll be a lot of developer's are sitting on the right FX code to imitate a lot of these hardware devices and hint at the source of inspiration. It seems like 4Pockets is working along these lines after marketing the StompBox line. Sell each FX as a $5 standalone and let us stack them up in the DAW. The best FX tools are AUM and AB3 to assemble Apps and control them with MIDI.

  • But...
    What am I gonna do with all these 9 volt batteries?

  • edited April 14

    @CracklePot said:
    But...
    What am I gonna do with all these 9 volt batteries?

    lick em ^^

    hm, thinking about it I really like the sound of a distortion box with dying batteries
    somebody should emulate that
    it sounds really kaputt in a nice way <3
    kind of like this
    https://www.ehx.com/products/germanium-od
    https://www.ehx.com/products/germanium-4-big-muff

  • @Max23 said:
    I was just pushing mono drum samples through logics amp designer to make more mono samples
    that was easy as apple pie, got usable stuff in seconds just playing with the mic positions :)
    just saying

    if you are after mono signals anyway just mono the sum down so you never hear the stereo fluff while tweaking?
    maybe I don't understand "the problem"?

    just for completeness: I was considering the opposite - from stereo to mono.
    Some units don't downmix to mono - and if they do, the result may loose a lot if the effect was designed with optimal 2-channel performance.
    Ping-pongs in the middle position can be quite boring...

  • on the other hand why dont they make such crazy pedals after the crazy apps we are enjoying

  • It would appear that this thread caught my imagination and what's more the prototyped idea sounds quite good.

    watch this space!

  • @pagefall said:
    It would appear that this thread caught my imagination and what's more the prototyped idea sounds quite good.

    watch this space!

    Nice! Looking forward to checking out what you’re doing :)

  • @pagefall said:
    It would appear that this thread caught my imagination and what's more the prototyped idea sounds quite good.

    watch this space!

    Sweet!

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