It's raining modulars! (Teenage Engineering no less)

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  • Ooh, pretty.

  • I'm not sure I can keep up..

    Will put my headphones back on and pretend all this crazy stuff isn't happening.

  • edited January 18

    ikea synths!

    Do i hold off on my volca splurge? not totally sold on the colors. $499 seems very good though. if only there was a way to customize the appearance

  • I bet @brambos is already getting his coder fingers hot B)

  • @Redo1 said:
    ikea synths!

    Do i hold off on my volca splurge? not totally sold on the colors. $499 seems very good though. if only there was a way to customize the appearance

    https://www.michaels.com/paint-and-painting-supplies/spray-paint/845162991

  • Beautiful! Typical Teenager Engineering, again introducing something no one saw coming. And again with that typical minimalistic timeless design.

  • Do these integrate with Eurorack? Because if not, the Mother 32 and O-Coast still remain the standard to beat at that price.

  • I was interested in the volca Modular, but if this has standard 1/8" patch points, it's far more interesting to me to integrate with my Behringer Model D....

  • edited January 18

    @Daveypoo said:
    I was interested in the volca Modular, but if this has standard 1/8" patch points, it's far more interesting to me to integrate with my Behringer Model D....

    Gee. The video really had me smiling. Wowie. Yes, 1/8" would integrate with Doepfer as well? I have a semi-modular that's begging to be more ... umm ... integrated? Patched? Proof will be in the sounding though.

  • @kinkujin said:
    Proof will be in the sounding though.

    Agreed - the ultimate decision maker.

  • edited January 18

    I mean, they look great, and I love the self-assembly aspect, but... there's quite a bit of competition at those price levels for synths. Even ones that are semi-modular. Throw in used gear, and I think you'd have to be some pretty serious fans of T.E. - or just have loads of cash - to get these.

    Some rough used gear prices

    • Neutron is about $275
    • Make Noise is about $450
    • Roland SE-02 is about $350 (not modular, but pretty fully-featured)
    • Behringer Model D is about $250 (not modular)
    • KORG MS-20 Mini is about $400
    • Moog Mother 32 is about $500
    • Moog DFAM Drummer is about $500
    • Minibrute 2S is about $450

    And then there's being able to get 2+ KORG Volca Modulars for the same price as the most expensive one, etc. Color me skeptical.....

  • @vitocorleone123 said:
    I mean, they look great, and I love the self-assembly aspect, but... there's quite a bit of competition at those price levels for synths. Even ones that are semi-modular. Throw in used gear, and I think you'd have to be some pretty serious fans of T.E. - or just have loads of cash - to get these.

    Some rough used gear prices

    • Neutron is about $275
    • Make Noise is about $450
    • Roland SE-02 is about $350 (not modular, but pretty fully-featured)
    • Behringer Model D is about $300 (not modular)
    • KORG MS-20 Mini is about $400
    • Moog Mother 32 is about $500
    • Moog DFAM Drummer is about $500
    • Minibrute 2S is about $450

    And then there's being able to get 2+ KORG Volca Modulars for the same price as the most expensive one, etc. Color me skeptical.....

    The Make Noise O-Coast can be found used for under $400. The Behringer Model D is $300 new, and it does have some patch points that work with Eurorack (and others can be added if you have a soldering iron and are willing to violate your warranty).

  • Are any of these Modulars controlled via AU standard interfaces on IOS? Insert the AU and control with ApeMatrix for example using LFO's, etc. IOS GUI in DAW's, etc.

    If not... maybe a developer could pick one and write the AU interface code. Do you need to ask the vendor for permission?
    I would think you would just adapt to the vendors API.

    Do any of these Modulars have a documented API? This might make a good Swift project for a wanna be coder using AudioKit to handle the tough details in IOS especially when the AudioKit AU code ships this year.

    That way we could have Modulars just become additional tools we can use with our IOS DAWs like the Model D AU App..

  • I'd wager to say the majority of synths in general done have an AU/VST. Only the newest ones might - and some of those are written by 3rd parties. Especially when it comes to modular synths, I'd also wager that the overlap between people using VSTs and modular hardware are ... lower. But I could be very wrong.

  • @vitocorleone123 I think you are spot on with the competition for these modular. From first look the modules on the TE unit are pretty standard fare for a subtractive synth, so something like the O-Coast, which seems to have a great reputation here, might be a better deal. Even the Korg Modular at half the price looks a more interesting proposition for weirder noises. But the proof is yet to be heard I guess.

  • @McDtracy said:
    Are any of these Modulars controlled via AU standard interfaces on IOS? Insert the AU and control with ApeMatrix for example using LFO's, etc. IOS GUI in DAW's, etc.

    If not... maybe a developer could pick one and write the AU interface code. Do you need to ask the vendor for permission?
    I would think you would just adapt to the vendors API.

    Do any of these Modulars have a documented API? This might make a good Swift project for a wanna be coder using AudioKit to handle the tough details in IOS especially when the AudioKit AU code ships this year.

    That way we could have Modulars just become additional tools we can use with our IOS DAWs like the Model D AU App..

    Modulars controlled by C(ontrol)V(oltages) and Trigger/Gate signals. CVs are used for continuous controls (notes, velocity, modulation). There are midi to cv interfaces available (eurorack, standalone) to control modulars via midi, so you can control your modular from iPad.
    There are also DC coupled audio interfaces (most MOTU stuff) that can output CV signals directly. As far as I know there are no iPad apps that can generate CV signals (maybe Audulus will at some point).
    I'm not a programmer, but I don't think it's about API.
    All you need is an interface that can output high enough voltage and an app that can instruct it to do so.

  • In case you didn't catch what the modules were at 0:27 in the video they are:

    square osc
    sawtooth osc
    sin osc
    filter
    envelope
    vca
    mixer
    noise
    random
    lfo
    sequencer

    *available for purchase in the near future

    This might get interesting with more than rudimentary modules, which I assume is the plan here, to roll out more modules beyond these in the future.

  • @Daveypoo said:
    I was interested in the volca Modular, but if this has standard 1/8" patch points, it's far more interesting to me to integrate with my Behringer Model D....

    This is exactly how I feel, except replace behringer model d with behringer neutron and handmade semi modular synth boxes

  • Watching the video again, what I don't understand about these is, they have each module slot name printed on the case. So this isn't so much a system, but a fixed synth.

    Begs the question, why sell the individual modules? Unless maybe they also plan to release a generic case, and if so, why release these fixed modular synths?

    I am confused. :#

  • @e121 said:
    Watching the video again, what I don't understand about these is, they have each module slot name printed on the case. So this isn't so much a system, but a fixed synth.

    Begs the question, why sell the individual modules? Unless maybe they also plan to release a generic case, and if so, why release these fixed modular synths?

    I am confused. :#

    https://teenage.engineering/_img/5c40d68837f9710004314dd3_original.pdf

  • @e121 said:
    Watching the video again, what I don't understand about these is, they have each module slot name printed on the case. So this isn't so much a system, but a fixed synth.

    Begs the question, why sell the individual modules? Unless maybe they also plan to release a generic case, and if so, why release these fixed modular synths?

    I am confused. :#

    Yeah I did wonder about how fixed the yellow one was but I think maybe later they will bring in more panels for different purposes, as suggested by this pic:

  • @Jocphone said:
    Also:

    Soooo they decided to go full on fart sounds for the music track?

  • Sorry. I assumed Modulars Systems could respond to MIDI events. I was also being tongue in cheek: "if it doesn't support AUv3" count me out. Do they support IAA? Nope. So how can you play one? Just cable it up and it plays with itself.

  • Teenage Engineering remind me of Dyson.
    hipster hoovers in pretty colours for loads of money o_O

  • edited January 19

    @mrcanister said:
    Teenage Engineering remind me of Dyson.
    hipster hoovers in pretty colours for loads of money o_O

    Yeah, they seem to be selling the packaging more than than the sound. That's kind of their market niche with all of their products: cute toys with lofi sound.

  • @McDtracy said:
    Just cable it up and it plays with itself.

    Sounds like the synth is lonely....

  • They sound really good.

    From a form over function perspective though - those slots in the case are going to fill with dust and make the boards all claggy, so they're not built to last.

  • Already completely Sold Out!

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