Ruismaker Noir Help

Hoping for a little help. I feel kinda stupid having to ask, but how do I use Noir in Garageband? When I open it as AU, it opens with a keyboard at the bottom. How do I get the Noir dot slider things back?

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  • edited December 2018

    @AnalogCortex said:
    Hoping for a little help. I feel kinda stupid having to ask, but how do I use Noir in Garageband? When I open it as AU, it opens with a keyboard at the bottom. How do I get the Noir dot slider things back?

    Not that easy in GarageBand, but still really powerful!! :)

    Firstly you need to tap on seq button

    Then you can tweak your sequence

    And record it in GarageBand as a midi part. You can even make some modifications in Noir seq like randomly change sequence il will be recorded live in midi parts the same way GB drum sequencer does.

    When the sequence is played by GB, you need to disable seq in Noir (red circled below).

    But @brambos I’ve found an issue: even with seq disabled, moving ruler (yellow circled) with GB transport stopped will make Noir play some sounds and even make some buzz. I have to tap on empty to not have that issue, which make me loose my Noir sequence (I can save it of course as a preset before tap on empty but it’s not a fast workflow).

  • @janosax Thank you very much for such a thorough explanation.

  • Yes, that was very helpful @Janosax
    B)

  • edited December 2018

    You’re welcome :)

    @brambos have you read my post above, about the ruler issue?

    @Janosax said:
    But @brambos I’ve found an issue: even with seq disabled, moving ruler (yellow circled) with GB transport stopped will make Noir play some sounds and even make some buzz. I have to tap on empty to not have that issue, which make me loose my Noir sequence (I can save it of course as a preset before tap on empty but it’s not a fast workflow).

  • @Janosax said:
    You’re welcome :)

    @brambos have you read my post above, about the ruler issue?

    Yes, I have. It’s a Garageband issue and I haven’t found a way around it yet without breaking the sequencer in all other hosts...

  • @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:
    You’re welcome :)

    @brambos have you read my post above, about the ruler issue?

    Yes, I have. It’s a Garageband issue and I haven’t found a way around it yet without breaking the sequencer in all other hosts...

    Ok thanks for answer. I think the workaround is as I said just using Noir seq, record in GB, and when it’s not needed anymore save as preset. Totally worth it, still sounds huge in Garageband even with that issue.

  • @Janosax said:

    @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:
    You’re welcome :)

    @brambos have you read my post above, about the ruler issue?

    Yes, I have. It’s a Garageband issue and I haven’t found a way around it yet without breaking the sequencer in all other hosts...

    Ok thanks for answer. I think the workaround is as I said just using Noir seq, record in GB, and when it’s not needed anymore save as preset. Totally worth it, still sounds huge in Garageband even with that issue.

    I'll have another look tonight and see if I can isolate what makes the sequencer respond differently from all other hosts. :)

  • @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:

    @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:
    You’re welcome :)

    @brambos have you read my post above, about the ruler issue?

    Yes, I have. It’s a Garageband issue and I haven’t found a way around it yet without breaking the sequencer in all other hosts...

    Ok thanks for answer. I think the workaround is as I said just using Noir seq, record in GB, and when it’s not needed anymore save as preset. Totally worth it, still sounds huge in Garageband even with that issue.

    I'll have another look tonight and see if I can isolate what makes the sequencer respond differently from all other hosts. :)

    Nice thanks :)

  • @Janosax said:

    @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:

    @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:
    You’re welcome :)

    @brambos have you read my post above, about the ruler issue?

    Yes, I have. It’s a Garageband issue and I haven’t found a way around it yet without breaking the sequencer in all other hosts...

    Ok thanks for answer. I think the workaround is as I said just using Noir seq, record in GB, and when it’s not needed anymore save as preset. Totally worth it, still sounds huge in Garageband even with that issue.

    I'll have another look tonight and see if I can isolate what makes the sequencer respond differently from all other hosts. :)

    Nice thanks :)

    I think I may have found something that can help solve it. Will look into it more tomorrow :)

  • @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:

    @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:

    @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:
    You’re welcome :)

    @brambos have you read my post above, about the ruler issue?

    Yes, I have. It’s a Garageband issue and I haven’t found a way around it yet without breaking the sequencer in all other hosts...

    Ok thanks for answer. I think the workaround is as I said just using Noir seq, record in GB, and when it’s not needed anymore save as preset. Totally worth it, still sounds huge in Garageband even with that issue.

    I'll have another look tonight and see if I can isolate what makes the sequencer respond differently from all other hosts. :)

    Nice thanks :)

    I think I may have found something that can help solve it. Will look into it more tomorrow :)

    Glad to read this!!!! You rock :) B)

  • @brambos I’ve just downloaded last Noir update, the issue is still there: when moving GarageBand ruler with transport stopped, there are some sounds from Noir seq played. With this update, there are even buzz sounds when ruler is not moved. I’ve reinstalled Noir just in case, changed nothing. This is with iPhone 7 Plus and last iOS.

  • edited December 2018

    @Janosax said:
    @brambos I’ve just downloaded last Noir update, the issue is still there: when moving GarageBand ruler with transport stopped, there are some sounds from Noir seq played. With this update, there are even buzz sounds when ruler is not moved. I’ve reinstalled Noir just in case, changed nothing. This is with iPhone 7 Plus and last iOS.

    Have you tried restarting after the update?

  • @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:
    @brambos I’ve just downloaded last Noir update, the issue is still there: when moving GarageBand ruler with transport stopped, there are some sounds from Noir seq played. With this update, there are even buzz sounds when ruler is not moved. I’ve reinstalled Noir just in case, changed nothing. This is with iPhone 7 Plus and last iOS.

    Have you tried restarting after the update?

    Yes I’ve just tried again and that didn’t helped.

  • @Janosax said:

    @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:
    @brambos I’ve just downloaded last Noir update, the issue is still there: when moving GarageBand ruler with transport stopped, there are some sounds from Noir seq played. With this update, there are even buzz sounds when ruler is not moved. I’ve reinstalled Noir just in case, changed nothing. This is with iPhone 7 Plus and last iOS.

    Have you tried restarting after the update?

    Yes I’ve just tried again and that didn’t helped.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.. weird.

  • edited December 2018

    @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:

    @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:
    @brambos I’ve just downloaded last Noir update, the issue is still there: when moving GarageBand ruler with transport stopped, there are some sounds from Noir seq played. With this update, there are even buzz sounds when ruler is not moved. I’ve reinstalled Noir just in case, changed nothing. This is with iPhone 7 Plus and last iOS.

    Have you tried restarting after the update?

    Yes I’ve just tried again and that didn’t helped.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.. weird.

    I’ve just sent you a mail with a video capture of this issue.

  • Bloomin’ GarageBand... 😂

  • edited December 2018

    Status update: Garageband's transport states seem bugged. It always reports that it's moving, even while it's not doing anything at all. This seems to cause notes to trigger repeatedly when the sequencer is actually stopped in some cases. Best workaround so far is that it now works, but skips the first note.

    I notice I'm always spending a disproportionate amount of time on getting basic stuff to work in Garageband. Stuff which works right away on all other hosts... :/

    Edit: I have filed a bug report for Garageband for this issue. I can't fix it properly on my end alone (nor do I want to, and let other plugin devs run into the same thing).

  • @brambos said:
    Status update: Garageband's transport states seem bugged. It always reports that it's moving, even while it's not doing anything at all. This seems to cause notes to trigger repeatedly when the sequencer is actually stopped in some cases. Best workaround so far is that it now works, but skips the first note.

    I notice I'm always spending a disproportionate amount of time on getting basic stuff to work in Garageband. Stuff which works right away on all other hosts... :/

    Edit: I have filed a bug report for Garageband for this issue. I can't fix it properly on my end alone (nor do I want to, and let other plugin devs run into the same thing).

    Thanks for feedback and your quick work on this, I perfectly understand your choice. Let’s hope GarageBand team will find a fix. It’s still perfectly useable: just tweak Noir seq until you have some good grooves, record everything to timeline, then save Noir’s preset and tap on its empty button. Go back to Noir seq presets when needed. That way you can take advantage of GarageBand arrangement capabilities without annoying buzz sounds.

  • edited December 2018

    @Janosax said:

    @brambos said:
    Status update: Garageband's transport states seem bugged. It always reports that it's moving, even while it's not doing anything at all. This seems to cause notes to trigger repeatedly when the sequencer is actually stopped in some cases. Best workaround so far is that it now works, but skips the first note.

    I notice I'm always spending a disproportionate amount of time on getting basic stuff to work in Garageband. Stuff which works right away on all other hosts... :/

    Edit: I have filed a bug report for Garageband for this issue. I can't fix it properly on my end alone (nor do I want to, and let other plugin devs run into the same thing).

    Thanks for feedback and your quick work on this, I perfectly understand your choice. Let’s hope GarageBand team will find a fix. It’s still perfectly useable: just tweak Noir seq until you have some good grooves, record everything to timeline, then save Noir’s preset and tap on its empty button. Go back to Noir seq presets when needed. That way you can take advantage of GarageBand arrangement capabilities without annoying buzz sounds.

    I think I have now circumvented the buzz sounds in Garageband (fingers crossed this works consistently in all versions on all devices). It just skips the first note when hitting play in the internal sequencer (because GB won't let me detect the user pressing "play" until the playback head is already away from the first beat :# )

  • edited December 2018

    @brambos said:

    @Janosax said:

    @brambos said:
    Status update: Garageband's transport states seem bugged. It always reports that it's moving, even while it's not doing anything at all. This seems to cause notes to trigger repeatedly when the sequencer is actually stopped in some cases. Best workaround so far is that it now works, but skips the first note.

    I notice I'm always spending a disproportionate amount of time on getting basic stuff to work in Garageband. Stuff which works right away on all other hosts... :/

    Edit: I have filed a bug report for Garageband for this issue. I can't fix it properly on my end alone (nor do I want to, and let other plugin devs run into the same thing).

    Thanks for feedback and your quick work on this, I perfectly understand your choice. Let’s hope GarageBand team will find a fix. It’s still perfectly useable: just tweak Noir seq until you have some good grooves, record everything to timeline, then save Noir’s preset and tap on its empty button. Go back to Noir seq presets when needed. That way you can take advantage of GarageBand arrangement capabilities without annoying buzz sounds.

    I think I have now circumvented the buzz sounds in Garageband (fingers crossed this works consistently in all versions on all devices). It just skips the first note when hitting play in the internal sequencer (because GB won't let me detect the user pressing "play" until the playback head is already away from the first beat :# )

    Cool, fingers crossed!! :)

    About the current version it skips the first note only when GB is recording Noir’s seq, just after the metronome count-in. So I have to trim the midi part but that’s really not a big deal, I do this all the time with my IAA recordings to do some latency correction. When Noir seq is in playback mode, first note is not missed, at least on my device.

    Thanks for still searching a fix for that!!

  • edited December 2018

    @brambos YOU MADE IT!!! B) B) B) Great job, works perfectly here now, no more transport/buzz sounds!! First note is missing now at transport start (wasn’t on previous versions at least on my setup) but that’s near zero issue with parts trimming. Much more comfortable to work with now. Big thanks again :) ;)

  • Hi. It is posible please to implement in NOIR pattern like in The Rozeta suite.
    And it be so powerfull if the random synth and sequencer part can be MIDI respond.
    Thanks

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