Audiobus: Use your music apps together.
What is Audiobus? — Audiobus is an award-winning music app for iPhone and iPad which lets you use your other music apps together. Chain effects on your favourite synth, run the output of apps or Audio Units into an app like GarageBand or Loopy, or select a different audio interface output for each app. Route MIDI between apps — drive a synth from a MIDI sequencer, or add an arpeggiator to your MIDI keyboard — or sync with your external MIDI gear. And control your entire setup from a MIDI controller.
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@espiegel123 exactly..i tried to diffuse but I think drez is getting old. Chill @drez
etween you (ns2) and @Turntablist @winconway @5pinlink (bm3) combining the 2 apps. That way as we say in London then everyones ‘APPy (happy) mate.
@drez Okay drez Ok .
Ok @stormbeats and @espiegel123, let me know what to post and when. I’ll be ready!
@drez ok drez ok
Man, try read between lines. I don't see any BM3 vs NS2 snipping in last 2-3 pages.
What is @drez trying to say (and to prove!) is deep profound thing. It fact, it has nothing to do with app1 vs. app2. App1 and App2 are in this case just symbolic objects used for describing true issue which is spreading beyond this small forum. Issue which pollutes whole world.
It's about conflict between empiric objective world of facts and science vs. irrational subjective world of pseudofacts, desinformations and missinterpretations.
I know, since after all this channel is about NS2, let’s talk about all the positive things you’ve noticed or that have helped you when you are using NS2? That will change the mood
The best thing for me is since Obsidian doesn’t have the 340Meg memory limit on all instances like AU’s do, I can run 50 of them mixed with different oscillator types and never have it blow up because of an OOM on my 4Gig iPad Pro. I didn’t really realize this because I just kept loading them up and they just...work. UsualIy when I work with AU’s, I’ve been forced to watch out for some of the sample based AU’s because it limits the instances I can use. I tried to use 4 iSymphonic instances but it kept blowing up. I replaced those and now have 10 orchestral sample based Obsidian’s running with no hiccups. I’m think I’m going to sample my NI Symphonic VST’s to see how far I can push it.
@stormbeats @espiegel123 how about you guys? What’s your favorite or cool thing you’ve found when working in NS2?
Feeding trolls is feeding trolls. Whether done scientifically or not it is unwise.
@drez not knocking Ns2 but I launched it and for me it all felt but clustered the menu structure etc and being an Akai MPC dude those pads in NS2 look weird to me like the UI is not finished. Each to their own though but Bm3 is more for me being a sample dude for near 30 years.Will have another look at Ns2 when I complete my projects in bm3 - I recently downloaded Modstep and stepped away pun intended It was like spaghetti junction or the London Underground Map.
I understand what you mean. If you are used to working the MPC then Slate in NS2 is probably not what you are used to seeing. The pads don’t have any space between them in Slate! I cannot finger drum on it nearly as well as I can BM3. I do like the bussing in Slate. I thought it was pretty limited when I started because I couldn’t do insert effects per pad, but that’s not really what blip is going for. I heard somebody else refer to it more as “a drum machine” and that seems pretty accurate. I can trigger other Slates on other channels through Midi Send and I have done it to isolate some specific sounds I want to trigger but it’s a bit of a nusaince to do. I own Maschine and having BM3 with everything right on the same screen with inserts is amazing. So for straight up drums and sampling, throwing them on pads, I’m still used to the BM3 workflow.
But primarily my style of music isn’t sample based, it’s more on the “melodic” side so the drum programming becomes “less important” in that style...meaning I’m just chunking down pretty standard drum kits, not cutting up a break. For that, I’m in BM3.
The one thing that I really like for “programming” drums in NS2 is the piano roll. I’ve been a user of NS1 as well so I’m kind of used to the layout so I was able to be proficient pretty quickly. Since I work mostly with Midi and less audio, its been a good match for me.
A cool thing dendy pointed out was that you can automate the sample start time in Obsidian, so you can do some pretty wicked things with vocal samples. Unlike chopping the vocal across transients, you can assign the start time to a knob and automate sweeping through the position as you retrigger. Kind of a cool granular effect if you do it slow with a ton of fast note retriggers. I was going to hook up some of the Midi FX with some randomization to see what kind of odd stuff would come out, but waiting until MIDI FX recording is implemented.
@drez cool.
@drez lovely journey, thank you for sharing!
Sample offset (and loop offset and loop length) automation / modulation is dope stuff..
And one of, for me totally most favourite things is using Rand1 / Rand2 modulation sources on Osc phase (or Sample offset if using Sample oscillator) to get "free running" oscillators like in old analogue synths .. it makes huge difference in sound, especially in combination with unison ... This is one of those "under the hood" features, not obvious for beginners, but with massive sound design power ...
Second great thing is using FM oscillator as stack of 3 independent oscillators .. you can virtually get patch with 9 oscillators thanks for this, every one with own envelope ! That's super powerfull ..
Please, just do it ! I'll buy it from you !!
Very cool. Do you rate any other iOS synths? Interested to know what your favourites are.
Oh and regarding FX, my ultimate collection is
For rest i'm using NS2 build in plugs .. But looking forward to FabFilter Saturn, after it will be available as AUv3 it will share first place with FAC Transient in my list
NAVE is great. And sample import always results in something interesting.
Although I have to say I'm using the wavetable synth in Groove Rider much more often.
Just curious: How does it compare to NS2's built-in compressor used as a transient shaper?
I must admit that compressors aren't my strong side. I use build-in compressor mostly for sidechaining or for lowering dynamic range of sounds.. Didn't tried it for transient shaping - also FAC i don't use as "tweaker-user" but more as "preset-user" ) - i just found few presets which works perfectly in certain situations, so i use them in those situations ...
For transient shaping FAC is total winner on iOS nothing is even remotely close to my experience
Good stuff @dendy - I still don’t have Nave but my other synths give me enough options.
Just for the impermanent record, NAVE is one of those thing that I am happy to have irrespective of end musical use almost. Will open it up and poke and prod at it happily for half an hour...a simply interesting piece of software.
@stormbeats : for synth-based music > @JohnnyGoodyear said:
Do you have other wavetable synths? Wondering (since it is on sale) if Poseidon scratches the same itch as Nave.
FYI, Poseidon is not currently AU, so loading it directly into NS2 isn’t possible.
EDIT: I LIED! They do have support for it! They should change their description text to reflect that
Fwiw, if a tool sounds great, I could care less if it is AU. (I realize NS2 is AU only but my interest in wavetable synths isn't limited to what NS2 can host.)
I think Poseidon is under-rated. Is it as elegant as NAVE? Not in my book, no.
Tx
just small evening experiment - delay time modulated by envelope in Obsidian Maybe interesting for somebody
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9aqzk6sr016z1u6/delay-time-mod.wav?dl=0
Woah. Can you post the patch?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/617l4ihgmdwueqp/ModDelay.zip?dl=0
just with different basic ocillators - i didn’t saved that original patch, there were used some single cycle model d waveforms, but that doesn’t matter for this example ... this one is with original obsidian oscillators, rest (modulated delay part) is same
basically most important is Env5 > Delay Time modulation
I’m getting so much mileage out of Obsidian. So versatile. I find that I can load up a lot of AU’s and mimic a patch pretty well. Not everything, but most of the stuff I find useful I can recreate well enough. I would definitely like 32 notes of polyphony because Unison steals quite a bit if you are supersawing. If Matt kept adding devices, I would gladly IAP those. Would be a great way to sustain growth. I hear he’s still working on his convolution reverb, which would be very welcomed. A multiband compressor would be the ultimate, IMO.
hah yes ! I was fighting for 8 voices unison and 32 voices poly limit but Matt wanted to hold things efficient on older devices... i will
definitely open topic again at some phase
yes, i already tested some pre alpha version and damn, that thing is great and SOO unbelievable efficient ... dope stuff !
and multiband waveshaper !! Dreaming about that... hope one day...
I poke in here to look for clues and this one is huge (while I wait for audio to be added).
I need to look into this. Can someone make a video to show the way? Or point to a decent demo of this sampling feature using AU instruments for making "clones".
Bottom line: people love tools that can scale up without crashing. Scaling up keeps getting easier and but that crashing result is more and more common.