Audiobus: Use your music apps together.
What is Audiobus? — Audiobus is an award-winning music app for iPhone and iPad which lets you use your other music apps together. Chain effects on your favourite synth, run the output of apps or Audio Units into an app like GarageBand or Loopy, or select a different audio interface output for each app. Route MIDI between apps — drive a synth from a MIDI sequencer, or add an arpeggiator to your MIDI keyboard — or sync with your external MIDI gear. And control your entire setup from a MIDI controller.Download on the App Store
Audiobus is the app that makes the rest of your setup better.
Ok thanks you, that's still useful with Ableton Live even if I prefer Audioshare Wifi sharing over iTunes for PC!!
Loopy is still young is my heart ... I'm sure @Michael will not resist the challenge!!
Many thanks for this explanation, i start to grasp the loop topic!
And @espiegel123 it would be nice, to get your preset too!
Thanks a bunch.
@tja Here is my preset. Word of advice, turn off monitoring in Loopy to avoid potential feedback.
Here are some screen caps with notes. It is all very simple once you are set up. The AB3 palette lets you do just about everything without needing to leave AUM. You can set loop lengths. Loop record. The loop recording starts at beginning of a cycle on the next empty track. So repeatedly recording lets you create multiple loops without switching apps.
Basic setup in AB3
AUM with SoftDrummer engaged to send to Loopy and Bias Amp and Sunrizer disengaged. Flick left or right on the send bus node to determine what gets sent to Loopy. (I wouldn’t normally send a soft Drummer, fwiw)
Almost everything you want to control in Loopy is here in the AB3 palette. And if not, the palette makes switching back and forth a breeze:
You can bring in just the master l/r output or individual tracks:
@Janosax : I think that you can run Loopy and Loopy HD together on the iPad and not just the iPhone:
I haven’t tried it, but I was able to set it up
I think this thread makes it very obvious:
But it started by creating sledgehammers for the other developers to create openings in the walls so everything can be adjacent to the property and access the "users".
"Now supporting over a thousand Apps." Have you bought one that doesn't? And kept it? (Serious question, that).
We just keep running through the AudioBus Garden and Apple open'ed the "Audio Unit" playground right next door! I love it when a community has effective "commons".
I'm not sure what we'd have without that initial AB garden and the free sledgehammers.
This Forum is also a bit of a Walled Garden. I like to walk through every morning now to catch up on community news.
Ok that’s cool to know thanks !! if I decide myself one day to get an iPad
Yes, it could be another option but it will need subgroups and other interesting things from AUM. I’m ok with supporting both even when I didn’t use any of them
ITOH AUv3 looper will be useful also for any other hosts.
Also special mention to Stagelight which could be a solution being loop recorder+song composition+clip launcher... just sayin’...
Just to add the AUv3 idea into this topic (derail but for good purposes) which could be implemented by Audiobus or AUM as internal processor. Excuse the mistake patch.
This one proposes a group bus routing by color selection instead too much menu diving.
Finally this approach talks about multiple audio outputs from GTL into AUM (could be AB3 too) but it could be applicable for any looper app out there (without multiple outputs)
The full GTL topic for anyone interested.
What I’m also searching for, speaking of AUV3 hosts live oriented, is something in which you could build effects racks with ability to toggle between racks presets with PC or midi notes like in VoiceRack FX. I try to do that with AUM and Midifire, but if I remember well @Michael wants to add midi control to Audiobus so that could also do it for me.
Will respond to the rest in a bit - currently got a toddler on my knee!
Wow Michael that looks so cool, we need this so much, thanks for that
My toddler sleeps deeply in his bed, lucky me I’m in the good time zone
@espiegel123 That was an impressive tutorial, many many thanks!
Things are much cleared now.
I think, i know enough now to try myself.
I even got Loopy, in addition to Loopy HD ...
Have fun! I just got lost in a loopy/AUM session putting together some loops for practicing against. I wish I had realized I could do this months ago.
Yes, there is much knowledge, but sadly often hidden for others.
We should have a Wiki for some basic questions and directions, to get some topics more easily started for new members.
A wiki would be great. The forum has a lot of valuable information but even with patient searching, it is hard to find the most current best info.
@espiegel123 love Loopy, although not playing with it much currently, BUT have copied your generous screenshot tutorial. Appreciate the effort. Thanks so much.
.....and everything ends up on (the wheels on) the bus
I’ve seen that before not so long ago so excited for the rest in a bit
Btw feeling happy to see the topic evolving and devs involved
I didn’t feel this was answered fully, but yes, you can record perfect loops in AUM without having to do the trimming thing on existing files.
Basically if the transport is already running and you press ”rec”, it’ll start recording on the next revolution/cycle. If it records and you press ”rec” it will stop recording at the end of the current cycle/revolution. If you combine those two things you’ll get a perfect loop.
Check out AUM manual here on the topic.
Yes, this. Good explanation. Sync Quantum is the setting, and I think it’s turned on by default.
Just to add, if you keep your ‘AUM Recordings’ folder tidy and save your project at the beginning (i.e. give it its own sub-folder - maybe even name the tracks if you like the setup) it can be very quick to set these loops going in the same session. While not instantaneous as OP is after (it takes me 5-10 seconds) it might be workable for some as a composition technique. Good knowledge, anyway.
@hellquist : Thanks for the tip. That is very helpful to know. That will be just the ticket for some case. For working out ideas seamlessly on the fly, the Loopy/AUM combo is magic, but I can also see using native AUM loop-recording, too.
@Michael :Really loving Loopy. I have only two wishes for Loopy:
Yes please, yes please
Arm the track for recording by pressing the R in the channel (s) and then press the rec button in the transport.... It will start recoding on the next bar , indicated by the small line in the transport control area.... When you want to stop recording, not immediately, but at the end of the current bar, press the record button again in the transport, not the play button as that stops it immediately, but if you press record it'll stop recording at the end of your current bar
Whew! Okay, lots to address there -
Good idea on the multi-loop export, and ties in with my plan to do session export anyway. It's in the pipe. Files support is a bit more involved, but when I have a spare brain cell I intend to poke at it and see what I can do; already started looking into it. I have had some thoughts about Audiobus/Loopy crossovers, but they're just idle ponderings right now. Oh, and I'll just go and switch session recording to AIFF, pretty easy to do.
Really cool to read this, thanks Michael
Btw, I am working on a few AUM/Loopy tutorial videos. In the process, I confirmed that on an iPad 6th Gen, it is no problem to run 24 loops (12 in Loopy and 12 in Loopy HD). CPU use was under 30% including a Bleass Reverb.
Here is a rough draft of a tutorial/demo I am working on. There will be a minute or so of overview that will precede this when I get it finished and there will be another short video walking through the setup:
Dope stuff man
Excellent. Really looking forward to seeing the whole thing as well.