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Riffer - discuss

Thanks to @Kuhl I heard of this today. Haven’t pulled out the card yet but this sure looks fun and interesting. Love the swing function and can see it being super useful with drums (flams).

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  • It looks good. Here’s another thread on it so you might want to jump over to that one. https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/555201#Comment_555201

  • Sheesh. I dunno how I missed that! Thanks @gusgranite

  • Just grabbed it

    It’s amazing and thanks for the heads up

    There is an infinity mode too

    Was gonna grab xequence but this seems more appealing

    Here’s a vid I found

  • edited October 2018

    @mindscaper said:
    Just grabbed it

    It’s amazing and thanks for the heads up

    There is an infinity mode too

    Was gonna grab xequence but this seems more appealing

    Here’s a vid I found

    Xequence is an amazing midi sequencer. More than just the generator that Riffer appears to be. No?

  • edited October 2018

    Yeah it's a bit like saying "I was gonna grab the toolbox but the screwdriver seemed much better" (no offense intended, but Xequence is orders of magnitude bigger in scope than Riffer.) Also Xequence's generative music module costs less than half.

    (I'm sure Riffer is a fine generative music app though!)

  • @SevenSystems said:
    Yeah it's a bit like saying "I was gonna grab the toolbox but the screwdriver seemed much better" (no offense intended, but Xequence is orders of magnitude bigger in scope than Riffer.) Also Xequence's generative music module costs less than half.

    (I'm sure Riffer is a fine generative music app though!)

    A second after I hit the post comment button I had a sinking feeling that you might take issue with my comment and I have noticed you watch this forum like a hawk lol

    I think I should have said “more appealing to ME”, which is what I meant actually instead of just “more appealing “

    Reason why is cause I’m a midiot and simply cannot be bothered to route signals and apps all over the place

    I like what I’ve heard about your app and have been on the fence for weeks about it but lol, I’ve only got £2 left on my iTunes credit

    Generative music fascinates me and riffer does it as a primary without iap

    No offence mate and apologies if I accidentally pissed you off

    Seems people are quite sensitive and jumpy around here and misunderstandings abound

    Maybe I’ll just shut up because I really cannot be bothered to have to explain or defend myself against people I don’t know and only exist online

  • @mindscaper no worries, I didn't take any offense, just wanted to clarify in case others were watching the thread (like a hawk :D) that the apps are two different beasts. No plans to talk you into anything :) Everybody, including my cat, seems to be extremely sensitive and / or aggressive today anyway. Is it the moon? Mars? No idea!

  • @SevenSystems said:
    @mindscaper no worries, I didn't take any offense, just wanted to clarify in case others were watching the thread (like a hawk :D) that the apps are two different beasts. No plans to talk you into anything :) Everybody, including my cat, seems to be extremely sensitive and / or aggressive today anyway. Is it the moon? Mars? No idea!

    It’s the lack of bongos. It’s been proven that when we at AudioBus Forums don’t play enough bongos, then hormonal changes take place :s

  • @mindscaper said:

    @SevenSystems said:
    Yeah it's a bit like saying "I was gonna grab the toolbox but the screwdriver seemed much better" (no offense intended, but Xequence is orders of magnitude bigger in scope than Riffer.) Also Xequence's generative music module costs less than half.

    (I'm sure Riffer is a fine generative music app though!)

    A second after I hit the post comment button I had a sinking feeling that you might take issue with my comment and I have noticed you watch this forum like a hawk lol

    I think I should have said “more appealing to ME”, which is what I meant actually instead of just “more appealing “

    Reason why is cause I’m a midiot and simply cannot be bothered to route signals and apps all over the place

    I like what I’ve heard about your app and have been on the fence for weeks about it but lol, I’ve only got £2 left on my iTunes credit

    Generative music fascinates me and riffer does it as a primary without iap

    No offence mate and apologies if I accidentally pissed you off

    Seems people are quite sensitive and jumpy around here and misunderstandings abound

    Maybe I’ll just shut up because I really cannot be bothered to have to explain or defend myself against people I don’t know and only exist online

    I don’t think this was pointedly at me, but just in case.. I was only aiming to make you aware, if you weren’t already, that Xequence was much more than a random generator.

    It does seem that the helpful nature of this forum has confused you on a few occasions. :( Hope you settle in comfortably soon.

  • Definitely the planetz - I ran to catch the bus today, but had to leave next stop for I left the ticket at home and had no cash with me. :|
    My wife had trouble with the tram - they were repairing rails... someone told her, ticket terminals refused cash. German soccer team did another self-embareassement by loosing 3:0 versus Netherland... o:)

  • @Telefunky well, the last part was actually the only positive occurrence today :D

    Well, it also doesn't help that EIR's DNS servers have now been flaky for 24 hours and I had to reconfigure all devices to use Google's name servers...

    SO! Bedtime!

  • Have a nice sleep, it's already tomorrow, so things may improve again...
    And take my humble congratulations, the Dutch victory was well deserved. :*

  • @kinkujin said:
    Thanks to @Kuhl I heard of this today. Haven’t pulled out the card yet but this sure looks fun and interesting. Love the swing function and can see it being super useful with drums (flams).

    I’ve had lots of fun with Riffer today. A fine way to spend a Saturday, when my wife & daughter have a Netflix binge :smile: The simplicity of the app touched my weekend laziness. Did you mention in another thread that it was going to be auv3 in the next update?

  • @Kühl said:

    @kinkujin said:
    Thanks to @Kuhl I heard of this today. Haven’t pulled out the card yet but this sure looks fun and interesting. Love the swing function and can see it being super useful with drums (flams).

    I’ve had lots of fun with Riffer today. A fine way to spend a Saturday, when my wife & daughter have a Netflix binge :smile: The simplicity of the app touched my weekend laziness. Did you mention in another thread that it was going to be auv3 in the next update?

    Yup. I think I’ll keep my eye on this one.

  • This app imo doesn't seem that special, I haven't picked it up but, there are so many ways to do what it does with a handful of other apps that do this and more. Xequence is more complete and all in one, to me it's kinda like working with midi in Ableton, you can lay out full tracks and each track has its own lane you can easily edit at any point in the process... and it randomly generate sequences for you with much control... Plus the dev is very helpful and involved in his app so it'll be going steady for a long time

  • @reasOne said:
    This app imo doesn't seem that special, I haven't picked it up but, there are so many ways to do what it does with a handful of other apps that do this and more. Xequence is more complete and all in one, to me it's kinda like working with midi in Ableton, you can lay out full tracks and each track has its own lane you can easily edit at any point in the process... and it randomly generate sequences for you with much control... Plus the dev is very helpful and involved in his app so it'll be going steady for a long time

    I agree. StepPolyArp, Xequence, Xynthesizr, Arpeggist & Thesys, springs to mind as good candidates.

    But Riffer got me to use real MIDI again, and that was fun, allthough I long for the auv3 update :)
    And the best of all... RIFFER.... it’s a cool name, and easy to write & remember when I get old and forgetful 😝

  • edited October 2018

    Riffer ... riffer ... it does sort of roll off the tongue.

    I thought the draw here was the generative element. Press button, get melody (or riff),edit, ad infinitum. I don’t see this in the other other apps mentioned, though I don’t own all of them. Yes? No?

  • @kinkujin said:
    Riffer ... riffer ... it does sort of roll off the tongue.

    I thought the draw here was the generative element. Press button, get melody (or riff),edit, ad infinitum. I don’t see this in the other other apps mentioned, though I don’t own all of them. Yes? No?

    Haven’t got Riffer, but Steppolyarp does a similar thing. From what I can see, Riffer produces more usable stuff.

  • Well I guess I'd better crack the manual on StepPoly ... so far I just use it to make my own arps/seq's. Forest for the trees and all that ...

  • Riffer is pretty cool, but SPA is much more useful overall as an all round tool. It’ll be much better as an AU if that happens. Having a few going at different speeds will be great.

    @MonzoPro said:

    @kinkujin said:
    Riffer ... riffer ... it does sort of roll off the tongue.

    I thought the draw here was the generative element. Press button, get melody (or riff),edit, ad infinitum. I don’t see this in the other other apps mentioned, though I don’t own all of them. Yes? No?

    Haven’t got Riffer, but Steppolyarp does a similar thing. From what I can see, Riffer produces more usable stuff.

  • Riffer is a specialist tool but very good and super quick at what it does. Can other things that are bigger in scope approximate it? Yes, but there's something satisfying about how quickly the results come. At the one thing it does, it is best. *

    • Ive only just recently started to explore Polyhymnia, and I'm not yet sure how good it is at monophonic randomization, but the poly is great.
  • Still really like this, definitely can be used creatively to good effect. But still a bit buggy for me, presets don't always load and start gets stuck sometimes in IAA. Hope they put the wind in their sales for the AU version.

  • Bought Polyhymnia out of respect for @SevenSystems efforts.

    I cannot find the right steps to access it. I have loaded the demo and started that way but how is the generate menu access from a new project? The lack of a tutorial on this capability is still a problem. I'm lookin' at you @AudioDabbler. Apologies if it's already out there but please show us the way. Let @Sevensystems code new features... like MIDI Program "Bank Select" :)

    My early attempts with Polyhymnia inspire me to grab Riffer for more power and better training.

  • edited November 2018

    @McDtracy said:
    Bought Polyhymnia out of respect for @SevenSystems efforts.

    I cannot find the right steps to access it. I have loaded the demo and started that way but how is the generate menu access from a new project? The lack of a tutorial on this capability is still a problem. I'm lookin' at you @AudioDabbler. Apologies if it's already out there but please show us the way. Let @Sevensystems code new features... like MIDI Program "Bank Select" :)

    My early attempts with Polyhymnia inspire me to grab Riffer for more power and better training.

    You can access Polyhymnia at any time by opening the pianoroll editor for a part and then tapping on the "+" button in the bottom toolbar, and then "Polyhymnia".

    Bank Select is also available since version 1.9, from the same menu in the arranger (tap "Program Change", the new popup now includes options for bank select). :)

    I'm not quite sure that Riffer is more powerful than Polyhymnia, can you give a few details / examples?

  • Riffer works well with some odd bugs added for extra fun.
    I can only get it to reach AUM targets using AUM as the output.
    Network Session 1 and even "Riffer MIDI Out" when selected on a lane AUM as the source don't work. I'm sure these issues will be addressed with updates.

    So, I have both Riffer and Polyhymnia (and Rosetta) so I'll probably get a lot of fun out of learing more about generative music making.

    In the process I discovered the fact that DubFilter has an internal sampler.

  • Riffer is great in my world.
    The simplicity of the UI is so easy, fast and intuitive to work with,
    and I often get really interesting musical results to play further with.
    I bought the VST, to mainly use it with Kontakt, Reaktor and Maschine , and sometimes send the midi to IOS.

  • edited November 2018

    @SevenSystems said:
    I'm not quite sure that Riffer is more powerful than Polyhymnia

    My bad. I meant having Polyhymnia AND Riffer gives me more power to create. Not that Riffer has more power. Too soon for me to judge.

    I really need to watch the training videos available. I'm not sure why I can't see a piano roll widget. It enbaled in the Polyhymnia demo but not when I ask for a new project. Do I have to record a short MIDI segment for it to be displayed in the lower right corner?

    I should watch the video for these basic details. With enough time I tend to figure most of these UI's out but the older I get the longer it seems to take :)

    Good to know about the Bank Select. I'll try it with iSymphonic and see how many tracks I can get to load to make a Synthony before something breaks.

  • @McDtracy said:
    I'm not sure why I can't see a piano roll widget.

    Hit record on a track and stop. The Piano Roll widget appears.
    It's always some little detail.

  • edited November 2018

    @McDtracy OK, just a misunderstanding then, no offense taken anyway :)

    You can also just create an empty part by tapping "+" in the bottom toolbar, and then under "Insert", "Empty Part". Or enable Draw Mode (bottom left) and just draw it.

  • The big problem with riffer is the skipping around when switching windows

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