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The more I make music the less I listen to it.

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  • The more i listen to music the less ignorance i hear, the more ignorance i hear the more music i listen to.

  • The more music I listen to, the more I want to make my own.

    Happy Thanksgiving

  • I listen to music all day while I’m working, so can’t identify with that statement boss.

  • I like listening to lots of different kinds of music, and making my own just gives me a deeper appreciation of other people's.

  • I’ve had a similar observation. In my case I found that I was enjoying listening less because I was always listening analytically rather than listening for pure enjoyment

  • I generally only listen to music (using noise cancelling headphones) when my neighbours are noisy.

    I listen a lot!

  • [Quote of almost any day]

    “First learn to be a craftsperson; it won’t keep you from being a genius.”
    Eugène Delacroix

  • @kobamoto said:
    The more i listen to music the less ignorance i hear, the more ignorance i hear the more music i listen to.

    If ignorance is bliss, there should be more happy people. (Victor Cousin)

  • Commonplace book entry for theoretical ignoramus (self):

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    “Creativity is more than just being different. Anybody can play weird - that’s easy.

    And anybody can play simple, that’s easy too.

    The difficult part is making a decent job of either of the above.

    Experimental/avant garde music isn’t just about making silly noises, though obviously that’s the fun part, just as abstract art isn’t just throwing paint at a canvas.

    There’s a bit more to it than that, Charlie.

  • @MonzoPro said:
    Bit 'weird' music is also very difficult to do correctly, and it's very, very easy to muck up and scare off the punters with a horrible mess. As I find every time I post something to the SOTM thread...

    >

    Or it could be that your work is so far into the future, most people haven’t caught up. ;)

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Bit 'weird' music is also very difficult to do correctly, and it's very, very easy to muck up and scare off the punters with a horrible mess. As I find every time I post something to the SOTM thread...

    >

    Or it could be that your work is so far into the future, most people haven’t caught up. ;)

    Comments like that would get you a pint if you were local...

  • The safest choice is to leave out all the notes – just in case.

  • Aargh, just missed it

  • @telecharge I think it began with writing. I would read Henry Miller or Primo Levi or B. S. Johnson, almost anyone I really admired at the time however different, and would find I unconsciously began to write in their particular rhythm. Too impressionable maybe. It is the chameleon's nature, after all, to want to make things right.

  • @MonzoPro said:
    I listen to music all day while I’m working, so can’t identify with that statement boss.

    I used to. Especially when droning along with mundane tasks, but I sit here in silence now it seems.

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    I go up and down with this, but I think the main reason it cuts into my listening is that at home, I'm quite often thinking about picking up the guitar or the iPad, and I don't want to start an album, then shut it off.

    Writing and books, I don't think that ever did affect me, except for the usual, "this piece of dreck got published, and my stuff gets chucked?" Which was one of the main reasons I stopped writing. :/

  • @richardyot said:
    I like listening to lots of different kinds of music, and making my own just gives me a deeper appreciation of other people's.

    @MonzoPro said:
    I listen to music all day while I’m working, so can’t identify with that statement boss.

    Both of these for me. I find other people's music inspires my style so I am always hungry for more. I work an office so it is easy to plug in some headphones.

  • edited November 2017 Vote Up0

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    The more I make music the less I listen to it.

    Are you meaning music in general or your own output? Interesting idea though.
    Are we capable of listening to music critically and with enjoyment simultaneously?

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    @telecharge I think it began with writing. I would read Henry Miller or Primo Levi or B. S. Johnson, almost anyone I really admired at the time however different, and would find I unconsciously began to write in their particular rhythm. Too impressionable maybe. It is the chameleon's nature, after all, to want to make things right.

    This young lady calls upon composers of the past when writing music. Maybe you're a prodigy, JG.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/watch-a-prodigy-create-from-four-notes-in-a-hat

    More hippie nonsense.
    https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_music_helps_us_be_more_creative

  • I used to listing to music most of the time. In spaces between I’d make music. I’d sometimes eat and sleep.

    Now with kids providing so much background noise and mrs supadom saying that music confuses her I tend to listen only in the car and BBC4 podcasts which are perfect for phasing out.

    Otherwise, any free time is spent on making music, which I’d do absolutely all the time given the chance. Not a family man attitude but when the kids get involved it can be good.

  • This forum needs more xylophone solos. Just an observation...

  • I listen mostly in the car, but I’ve been finding I prefer silence a lot more. I think it has something to do with fatigue related to elevated levels of noise pollution these days but, maybe I’m just getting old.

  • edited November 2017 Vote Up0

    I have found that during the past several years, I will seek out instrumental music rather than vocal music. I talk all day, and also have to listen to others talk all day. I suspect that I get my share of points of view, and consequently enjoy the pleasures of tone devoid of overt meaning or intention.

  • edited November 2017 Vote Up0

    @JohnnyGoodyear
    I make time to listen to music, even if it’s tried and true. I was up at 5 am today and listened to Pink Floyd’s THE WALL in its entirety. It was glorious and inspired me to play around with delay and Reverb a bit more when I mix my next batch of songs. The music of my arrested development never ceases to take me back to my primal passion for rock and roll and the search for my identity in and around it. I make music because I LOVE listening to it. I can’t make music without making time to listen to it.

    After writing the above, I reread your post, and I’m not sure there’s a longing for listening there. What compelled you to start the thread with that particular observation?

  • @ecamburn said:
    I’ve had a similar observation. In my case I found that I was enjoying listening less because I was always listening analytically rather than listening for pure enjoyment

    I think of listening like learning. There is rote learning and active learning. There is passive listening and active listening.

    Also, with both you can become so absorbed that you lose track of space and time.

  • @supanorton said:
    @JohnnyGoodyear
    I make time to listen to music, even if it’s tried and true. I was up at 5 am today and listened to Pink Floyd’s THE WALL in its entirety. It was glorious and inspired me to play around with delay and Reverb a bit more when I mix my next batch of songs. The music of my arrested development never ceases to take me back to my primal passion for rock and roll and the search for my identity in and around it. I make music because I LOVE listening to it. I can’t make music without making time to listen to it.

    After writing the above, I reread your post, and I’m not sure there’s a longing for listening there. What compelled you to start the thread with that particular observation?

    Inspiring, would never think to listen to The Wall front to back. Once did and often. Maybe lost my way. As regard my initial thought it just dawned on me while making tea and had no one within range who would either know what I was talking about or care particularly and so I thought I would start a thread for such things here in the bunker of similar souls, not with any specific intention, more just to say it out loud and thus cause myself to think about it some more rather than it simply falling through the cracks of my mind by the time I reached my study...

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    The more I make music the less I listen to it.

    Same! Although I can’t call it making music yet... nothing finished.

    Known as an obsessive, avid listener. When asked if I play an instrument, I say ‘no, but I have very big ears’.

    But not listening to much lately. Not watching any Netflix either. Just iOS music. Very much enjoying myself too. I sense it might travel in waves, however.

    Good observation, JG.

  • edited November 2017 Vote Up0

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    @telecharge I think it began with writing. I would read Henry Miller or Primo Levi or B. S. Johnson, almost anyone I really admired at the time however different, and would find I unconsciously began to write in their particular rhythm. Too impressionable maybe. It is the chameleon's nature, after all, to want to make things right.

    i know this one, i’ve been the chameleon in writing, movies, and music...

    And now i find myself listening to music every day, and not the kind i make, and not always of my choosing (driving the teenage daughter to and from involves listening to stuff good and bad in a genre that i don’t work in). It’s music the chameleon will never fully take on, but i feel the stretch and chunks of that stuff are now showing up in my stuff

  • I'm on the train a lot, so that's my listening time. At home I'm on the guitar, ipad etc...

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