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WARNING: Fraudulent Black Friday sale at musicstudioweb.com

Max_FreeMax_Free
in General App Discussion

Don't try to buy there.
It looks incredible.
And it really is.

I think I saw this on Facebook about 2 hours ago.
This was almost too good to be true:
There were many offers, for example good headphones for 39€, studio monitors for 58€, compact studios, and the best I found was
the Analog Four MKII (retails for 1249€) offered for 98€.

In the shop description below it found
some nice, almost convincing text:

About Us

Music was established in 1898 in Warrington, England, making it the oldest retailer of musical instruments in the UK. Through this time we've learnt a thing or two about what musicians want and are proud to say we are a company run by musicians, for musicians. is a multi-channel retailer who sell all things musical, to all type of musicians.

Our History
......

...and so on.
Yet no link to the normal shop website was
provided, so from
home menu, just the sale offers could be
accessed. This made me somewhat more suspicious.
A quick google search revealed the shop info matched exactly the one of
Dawsons Music Ltd., which I could prove to be a legit company with help of
Wikipedia and a link to a BBC article from 2014.

https://www.dawsons.co.uk/about-us
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawsons_Music (this is good!)

So next, I called (rather my girl-friend did) this legit shop at the number provided there and bingo,
they have absolutely nothing to do with the
musicstudioweb.com operation.

Same shop info given.
Nothing to do. Just a copy of the info
from the legit shop.

And I was just in the process of registering
my info at the fake website.

So I get sometimes things are just this.
Too good to be true.

Marcus

Fraudulent musicstudioweb.com Black Friday Sale Offer
  1. What would you've done when stumbling over this offer?19 votes
    1. I would have entered my data with credit card #
        5.26%
    2. I would have checked like you did
      36.84%
    3. I would have ignored it, can't be true
      47.37%
    4. I have everything I need and don't want money as a gift
      10.53%

Comments

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    thanks bro

  • encenc
    edited November 2017

    I ALWAYS look at online reviews before purchasing.... not just reviews from the shop advertising.... infsct, I'd rarely take notice of reviews on a shops own website. Best to stick with known shops. Dawson's is very much a well established music retailer in the U.K. Seems they are foul of this. You did the right thing. If it seems to good to be true... it probably is.

  • CracklePotCracklePot

    Great job, Detective! B) Thank you for forewarning.

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    Screw it I’m trying it. Can’t pass up those prices

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    I do love this line:

    Music was established in 1898 in Warrington, England,

  • WillWill

    nice find. A little googling for some of the phrases and it looks like they've basically bit Dawson's music.

    https://www.dawsons.co.uk/about-us
    Their About Us page is the same, just minus the word Dawson's everywhere. http://www.musicstudioweb.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=8

    Looks like they have other 'stores' out there too. http://www.kawaibuy.com/index.php?main_page=shippinginfo

    I sent an email to Dawson's.

  • JurgeNJurgeN

    @oat_phipps said:
    Screw it I’m trying it. Can’t pass up those prices

    _Do yourself a big favor: DON'T!! _

    some reasons:

    • The payment page is not SSL encrypted and if you enter your cards' information; THEY have it and will drain your bank account faster than you can say 'Bob's your uncle'

    Other signs:

    • a DJS-1000 standalone DJ sampler for € 98,00 (from € 1299,00) is a discount of over 92% (now that's 'If it sounds too good to be true, is probably is')
    • no address or phone number is mentioned anywhere on the site (with 11 shops, you should think they want you to come by too)
    • some spelling mistakes on the 'about us' page (which is extremely vague).
    • The website is registered on November 2nd., 2017 and hosted on the Seychelles
    • the FAQ page is extremely short and only mentions information about cleaning a guitar and oiling a fingerboard.
    • they point to a Chinese EMS site.

    Jay

  • sonicreefsonicreef

    yea, I was thinking the same thing. Maybe we can get a group buy going.

    @oat_phipps said:
    Screw it I’m trying it. Can’t pass up those prices

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited December 2017
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  • High5deniedHigh5denied

    @StudioES said:
    Some of you may be having fun here, but JurgeN is 100% accurate. Some of your fellow musician buddies are going to buy something there (or on the redirects), and that decision could affect them for the rest of their life. Not just financial ruin, but identity theft is possible. It happens a lot more often than you think. And it never ends with an international outfit like that one. When it gets hot, kill the server, failover to another one instantly in another location.
    Thanks Max_Free for posting that warning.

    Plus just browsing that fraudulent site probably is dangerous. CCleaner time!

    Is CCleaner safe ATM? I had heard it was hacked, and I haven't used it since. Used to use it every few weeks.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited December 2017
    The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • AceVenturaAceVentura

    @Max_Free said:

    Don't try to buy there.
    It looks incredible.
    And it really is.

    I think I saw this on Facebook about 2 hours ago.
    This was almost too good to be true:
    There were many offers, for example good headphones for 39€, studio monitors for 58€, compact studios, and the best I found was
    the Analog Four MKII (retails for 1249€) offered for 98€.

    In the shop description below it found
    some nice, almost convincing text:

    About Us

    Music was established in 1898 in Warrington, England, making it the oldest retailer of musical instruments in the UK. Through this time we've learnt a thing or two about what musicians want and are proud to say we are a company run by musicians, for musicians. is a multi-channel retailer who sell all things musical, to all type of musicians.

    Our History
    ......

    ...and so on.
    Yet no link to the normal shop website was
    provided, so from
    home menu, just the sale offers could be
    accessed. This made me somewhat more suspicious.
    A quick google search revealed the shop info matched exactly the one of
    Dawsons Music Ltd., which I could prove to be a legit company with help of
    Wikipedia and a link to a BBC article from 2014.

    https://www.dawsons.co.uk/about-us
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawsons_Music (this is good!)

    So next, I called (rather my girl-friend did) this legit shop at the number provided there and bingo,
    they have absolutely nothing to do with the
    musicstudioweb.com operation.

    Same shop info given.
    Nothing to do. Just a copy of the info
    from the legit shop.

    And I was just in the process of registering
    my info at the fake website.

    So I get sometimes things are just this.
    Too good to be true.

    Marcus

    MusicStudioweb true location ..... NOT UK like Dawsons.

    IP information 165.231.3.36
    IP address 165.231.3.36
    Location Victoria, English River, Seychelles (SC) flag
    Registry afrinic
    Network information
    IP address 165.231.3.36
    Reverse DNS (PTR record) not available
    DNS server (NS record) ns3.he.net (216.218.132.2)
    ns1.he.net (216.218.130.2)
    ns5.he.net (216.66.80.18)
    ns2.he.net (216.218.131.2)
    ns4.he.net (216.66.1.2)

  • AceVenturaAceVentura

    Possibly from Estonia ... but smells very Chinese in origin with bad English and Chinese Courier/EMS service.
    General information
    AS number 57972
    Alias AS57972, ASN57972
    Organization Inter Connects Inc
    Country Estonia (EE) flag
    Regional Internet Registry (RIR) ripe
    Allocation or assignment date 2012-03-22
    Number of IPs originated (v4) 2,560
    ASRank (based on number of IPs) 19,558
    Number of IPv4 prefixes 5

  • TheXORTheXOR

    WHOIS Showing results for: musicstudioweb.com
    Original Query: musicstudioweb.com

    Contact Information
    Registrant Contact
    Name: Markx Karel
    Organization: Domain Protection Services, Inc.
    Mailing Address: Hattem, Hattem U.S. Virgin Islands 00000 US
    Phone: +1.45454664646
    Ext:
    Fax:
    Fax Ext:
    Email:[email protected]

    Karl Marx in the U.S.???? Hmmmmmm :D

  • LokoCrabLokoCrab

    I spent a lot of money on that site before I managed to think it through.

    Is there anything I can do to get my money back?
    Does anybody have any tips or tricks?

    best,
    Lasse

  • BlueGreenSpiralBlueGreenSpiral

    @LokoCrab said:
    I spent a lot of money on that site before I managed to think it through.

    Is there anything I can do to get my money back?
    Does anybody have any tips or tricks?

    best,
    Lasse

    Call your bank or card provider immediately!

  • someonesomeone

    came to this forum as a result of research of another too good to be true shop http://www.hotvipshop.com - seems that the same person Markx Karel has opened it.

  • McElvissMcElviss

    Hi, I 'm normally careful but was seduced by seeing exactly what I was looking for at a Black Friday price! I looked at the "About Us" part, and used the company number to see it was Dawson's (I grew up near Warrington so know Dawson's very well). Sadly I didn't call them to verify, and neither did I take any notice of the tell-tale poor quality of the site. So I purchased an item for €39.00 and chose GBP currency. It converted this to £35.10. So I also didn't spot the lack of a confirmation email. I paid by VISA Debit, which takes the payment straight from my current account. The next day a payment of £40.10 was taken (plus a Foreign Currency Transaction Charge of £1.10 by my bank).

    When I didn't hear anything for a week, I phoned Dawson's and they told me it was nothing to do with them. I contacted my bank, they said the transaction had gone to China. They said as I'd done this voluntarily, I needed to wait 15 days to see if I got anything delivered. If I didn't receive anything, they can claim from VISA for non-delivery. If I receive something that is either not what I ordered or is clearly counterfeit, they can raise a similar claim. They said I hadn't had any other activity from them on my card, but advised me to cancel it and they would send me a new one.

    Definitely a triumph of greed over common sense and experience!

  • animoneanimone

    http://www.musicinstrumentnews.co.uk/2017/11/16/exclusive-second-retail-website-scam-revealed/

    This is an article with a lot of useful infos.

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