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Best platform for distribution underground music?
Best platform for distribution underground music? Anybody a hint. I was looking at SoundCloud but a sound and underground artist as Ryoji Ikeda has an average of about 300.000 views at YouTube but average at Soundcloud is about only 30 plays. Shocking difference. Other suggestions than YT and SC for distribution platforms also welcome of course.
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Mixcloud?
I've put some of my stuff on http://logamp.com/
slightly over 1000 plays in three month (26 tracks altogether ~ http://logamp.com/jan-dark )
if you wanna sell something, Bandcamp might be a good option https://bandcamp.com/
I guess it depends on what the goals are. Is low SoundCloud traffic really a problem? Could it be that YouTube is the preferred platform of his fan base? 300K ain't too shabby.
Spotify is the place to be. There are hundreds of thousands of artists there I've never heard of.
I'm not sure I really understand the concept of "underground" anyway. It just seems like the cool kids way of saying "unknown."
+1 Spotify. When I'm looking for great but slightly obscure electronic stuff, typically reviewed on RA, I always check Spotify first.
Watching the video of THE TRANSFINITE explains it. The visual component is part of the experience. I'm not sure the audio would work in isolation.
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Footage from Ryoji Ikeda's mind-blowing video installation at the Park Avenue Armory. New York, NY.
@skiphunt and @cabo thanks I'll have a look. btw do you think the platforms you advise/use will be there in the future. A long time ago I used the upcoming streaming platform blip.tv. They stopped after a year or five because they couldn't make enough money. That said, audience is of course also important if your specialized music can get you the listeners that search for your type of music I think a smaller platform tha something like big YT might just be better.
Although some of Ikeda's mind blowing installations get loads of traffic. His audio cd's also do just much better (total understatement) on YT
Dataplex cd YT (just audio) 300.000+ views
All albums on SoundCloud by Ikeda. None of the seperate tracks got more than 100 plays
I would say underground music is music that is just not mainstream. It doesn't mean that underground music is by definition hipster stuff. But I think people involved in this kind of music try diffrent thinks. It could be punk or electronic music or folk music redefined. Persoanlly I'm interested in electronic experimental stuff.
How do you get your music on Spotify? And maybe widen the discussion a bit are what are important underground music review websites.
Not sure which sites are more "important", but I tend to favor RA and Quietus in general. I use Spotify for discovery, then the stuff I like, I support the artists by buying their albums. I don't do much streaming. Prefer old school complete albums.
Just get on YouTube and SoundCloud and you'll get noticed, especially if you distinguish yourself as an IOS musician. YouTube has the best search functions and ratings system.
SC feels rigged with the pay for stats and get promoted BS. Their mobile apps are useless as well.
To get on Spotify or ITunes you need to pay to have a distributor.
Any experience with those distributors?
You may have missed your calling, Ian ... you would have been right at home with the Pythons de Monty, methinks
I've hit a temporary brick wall myself regarding choice of distribution service - CD Baby? TuneCore? Elsewhere? Pros and cons abound in what appears to be a big wash.
I use CDBaby to get on all the major sites, I just trust their reporting and the process is very easy. That covers Spotify, iTunes, Amazon, etc.
For self-releases, I get FAR, FAR more people listening to my music on YouTube than all the other options combined. It's easily the most important outlet these days I feel.
This guy does a review of the pertinent services that might be a good place to start. It updates periodically and was last updated September 2016. Personally, I have music on Bandcamp, SoundClick and went through ReverbNation to get on iTunes. This was all done years ago and if I did it now I might choose differently, but I haven't had any real complaints.
http://aristake.com/?post=92
This Thread's Title is so ironic it makes me wish Metallica and Lady Gaga did a song together.
@Tarekith and @bigcatrik Thanks! Will have a look
@RustiK Selbsthineinlegung
Does underground still exist ?
In the 80/90s you got a lot of underground music (trip hop, drum & bass,house,hip hop,rock) because the internet was not a big thing. Nowadays everybody can promote their own music and upload everything on the internet and you will be noticed/discovered. I'm afraid underground is something from the past.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_music
Soundcloud's play counter is either rigged or broken. I've tested it on a few occasions- getting a range people to listen to a new track and then seeing the plays haven't been recorded. And if I play my own tracks the counter doesn't budge, despite using different IP's.
THx! Interesting read. Makes me aware that I was not specific enough, and underground was too general. What I meant was suggestions for alternative platforms for experimental electronic music.
btw Although I agree with that free distribution through the internet of music is a common dominator, I still believe that this didn't cause underground music too exist. There's still tons of music made by ever emerging subcultures that are probably not so easy to find and afre not avaiable through platformas as YT and SC. I understand that both platforms easy take down music (weird mixes for example) that is claimed to be copyrighted. Also Google seems easy when I comes to get things out of their search engine when people claim copyright infringement.
No idea if this whole facebook thing will take off... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-13/facebook-tries-to-offer-music-labels-an-alternative-to-youtube
Thank you for the pointer!
EDIT: Oh, this is GOOD stuff - just what the doctor ordered
I use to find music on melotronica
Sometimes I download songs for my CDs I like to listen in my car. Sometimes I find there some underground music but in the most cases it can be find on forums where people upload their personal music and some can be really considered great.
I think your tracks have to be signed to a label? Some of my stuff is on Spotify (including iTunes/Beatport/Amazon & Traxsource), but they are signed to a record label.
Still quite new to BootCamp, but have been pleased so far. Two albums and Xmas single, all easy to upload nice quality and input relevant details, etc.