Arturia Keystep

rs2000

@Artefact2001 said:

@ph8aerror said:
They asked this some time ago online... somewhere... I can't remember, but I basically gave the same answer as @Samu did.
Add a few assignable knobs. NOT ENCODERS.

I thought knobs and encoders were the same thing what's the difference?

When people talk about knobs, they usually mean potentiometers with a fixed angle of about 270 degrees from minimum to maximum.
Advantage: Many iOS apps support this kind of MIDI control
Disadvantage: When controlling a software parameter, turning the knob will make the current value jump to where the knob position is.

Encoder: A dial that can be turned freely, when turning left/right it sends decrement/increment messages instead of absolute values for the respective CC value.
Advantage: No jumps. Turning right increases, turning left decreases the value
Disadvantage: Hardly and iOS app and host support this.

NoiseFloored

@rs2000 said:

@Artefact2001 said:

@ph8aerror said:
They asked this some time ago online... somewhere... I can't remember, but I basically gave the same answer as @Samu did.
Add a few assignable knobs. NOT ENCODERS.

I thought knobs and encoders were the same thing what's the difference?

When people talk about knobs, they usually mean potentiometers with a fixed angle of about 270 degrees from minimum to maximum.
Advantage: Many iOS apps support this kind of MIDI control
Disadvantage: When controlling a software parameter, turning the knob will make the current value jump to where the knob position is.

Encoder: A dial that can be turned freely, when turning left/right it sends decrement/increment messages instead of absolute values for the respective CC value.
Advantage: No jumps. Turning right increases, turning left decreases the value
Disadvantage: Hardly and iOS app and host support this.

I'll add another disadvantage with encoders: unless they have some sort of value display (like and LED ring), and software that supports sending data to it, you can't tell the value from the encoder alone.

DatGood

@rs2000 said:
Disadvantage: Hardly and iOS app and host support this.

"Hardly?"
I thought there was none. Please direct me in the direction of an app that does ASAP!!

Will

@Samu said:

@Jumpercollins said:
Looks like Arturia are looking for user ideas to improve on the original.

https://twitter.com/arturiaofficial/status/1138843473480732674

No need for 'rocket science' here. They should just add a bunch of assignable knobs and be done with it.
The sequencer should be able to record the knobs movements...

Use the 'keyboard' as a step selector for the sequence to allow step-editing, ie. tap a key and tweak a knob to record it's value to the step...

If the R&D department at the company can't figure simple things that on their own I don't know why they even bother

Yep. Beatstep's 8x2 knobs, Beatstep Pro's 16 step buttons (same as the drumbrute, etc) and... the ability to use those 16 step buttons to choose between 16 polyphonic tracks.

White keys to 'scale' mode.

1-4 MIDI LFOs (that could also go out via CV).

USB host prolly won't happen but it would be dreamy.

Will

@BroCoast said:
Key trig sequencer option would make it a lot better.

What's a key trig sequencer?

Otherwise I love it as is. It's simplicity and ability to drive almost any piece of gear is what makes it great.

I agree. My comments above were more about a potential "KeyStep Pro".

Telstar5

Just got mine

rs2000

@ph8aerror said:

@rs2000 said:
Disadvantage: Hardly and iOS app and host support this.

"Hardly?"
I thought there was none. Please direct me in the direction of an app that does ASAP!!

Arturia iSpark + Spark LE controller.

Will

https://twitter.com/syrupcore/status/1139356746839818240

DatGood

@rs2000 said:

@ph8aerror said:

@rs2000 said:
Disadvantage: Hardly and iOS app and host support this.

"Hardly?"
I thought there was none. Please direct me in the direction of an app that does ASAP!!

Arturia iSpark + Spark LE controller.

Oh thanks. Unfortunately, apps that I've no interest in.

DatGood

@syrupcore said:

https://twitter.com/syrupcore/status/1139356746839818240

WOAH... like... WOAH

BroCoast

@syrupcore said:

@BroCoast said:
Key trig sequencer option would make it a lot better.

What's a key trig sequencer?

Otherwise I love it as is. It's simplicity and ability to drive almost any piece of gear is what makes it great.

I agree. My comments above were more about a potential "KeyStep Pro".

Key trig is like the ARP/sequencer in Model 15. You press a key to trigger the sequencer, it can also retrig/restart each time a key is pressed if desired. The Rozeta sequencers do this with the MIDI trig option, they just don't have retrig.

Will

@BroCoast said:

@syrupcore said:

@BroCoast said:
Key trig sequencer option would make it a lot better.

What's a key trig sequencer?

Otherwise I love it as is. It's simplicity and ability to drive almost any piece of gear is what makes it great.

I agree. My comments above were more about a potential "KeyStep Pro".

Key trig is like the ARP/sequencer in Model 15. You press a key to trigger the sequencer, it can also retrig/restart each time a key is pressed if desired. The Rozeta sequencers do this with the MIDI trig option, they just don't have retrig.

Oh. Yum.

Will

@ph8aerror said:

@syrupcore said:

https://twitter.com/syrupcore/status/1139356746839818240

WOAH... like... WOAH

a fella can dream

wim

@rs2000 said:
Disadvantage: When controlling a software parameter, turning the knob will make the current value jump to where the knob position is.

Fortunately, some apps have the option for “pickup mode” where instead of jumping as soon as you turn the knob, nothing happens until you “cross” the existing value. I love Audiobus midi learn so much for this feature.

Montreal_Music

I have a Keystep and I use it with my iPad. Is there a way to sequence a pattern with the Keystep AND play the keys of the Keystep to play a melody on an other app? If I programm a pattern on Midi CH 1 and switch to MIDI CH 2 to play the melody, the Keystep will play the sequence on the MIDI CH 2.

Thanks.

michael_m

I have a KeyStep connected to my iPad and to other hardware as I can easily switch the MIDI channel it sends on, so it's great for live switching.

Same as others, I agree that it could use some knobs, but what I have been thinking of is buying a BeatStep as a companion controller - they're not too expensive, and I think between them they are a good pair of controllers.

Antemode

@Montreal_Music said:
I have a Keystep and I use it with my iPad. Is there a way to sequence a pattern with the Keystep AND play the keys of the Keystep to play a melody on an other app? If I programm a pattern on Midi CH 1 and switch to MIDI CH 2 to play the melody, the Keystep will play the sequence on the MIDI CH 2.

Thanks.

Sometimes I get confused but I think you do this as follows:

• Only works on sequence Mode (not supported on Arp Mode)
• Hold Shift AND Oct + (Kbd Play)
• While Holding select the Midi CH on the Keys
• Otherwise if you only hold Shift you are changing the channel of the Sequencer like you explained.

Montreal_Music

@Antemode said:

@Montreal_Music said:
I have a Keystep and I use it with my iPad. Is there a way to sequence a pattern with the Keystep AND play the keys of the Keystep to play a melody on an other app? If I programm a pattern on Midi CH 1 and switch to MIDI CH 2 to play the melody, the Keystep will play the sequence on the MIDI CH 2.

Thanks.

Sometimes I get confused but I think you do this as follows:

• Only works on sequence Mode (not supported on Arp Mode)
• Hold Shift AND Oct + (Kbd Play)
• While Holding select the Midi CH on the Keys
• Otherwise if you only hold Shift you are changing the channel of the Sequencer like you explained.

Wow, thanks!