iMPC Pro by Akai Professional & Retronyms OUT NOW (IAA/MIDI supported)
  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear +1 -1 (+1 / -0 )

    As noted upthread; Only 2 beers in my home town.

    Bought and despite The Misgivings of Doom (my own) spent an hour, just as a stand alone, and Had A Good Time (TM).

    My sensory side has quibbles, but my intuitive side can make this make stuff. The rest feels like a communication (read marketing) issue for many of us. I liked the earlier idea of folks in the middle (not haters or lovers) would have come to the game more gently if this had just dropped out of the sky.

    Anyways, won't mean a thing in a hundred years, nor in 15 minutes when the Brazil/Germany game starts and I jam this back through the headphones and decide whether to make hiphop samba or oldskool oompa...

  • @telecharge said:

    Hey, you guys are scaring me off. I haven't bought this...yet.

    > >

    I have serious doubts about this after the videos but then i bougth the old i MPC and is great for me i can do some beats copy and paste it into other apps, thats why i bougth iMPC Pro but is not as stable as the first one, sure it have a few more options like timeline and the fx but right now im dissapointed. Maybe in future updates but i read that this guys doesnt update often. And btw the samples quality are better in the old app.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    As noted upthread; Only 2 beers in my home town.

    Yes, easy to justify if you look at it individually. It's the cumulative that stings. I've bought a number of apps over the past couple o' weeks. Gotta say no to something, right? Right?!?

  • @Sinapsya said:

    My favorite Demo Song of iMPC Pro is 'Dilla Dreams'.....yours???

    Funny, I thought that was the worst! But I love Dilla's MPC work a lot so I might be judgey.

  • syrupcoresyrupcore +1 -1 (+2 / -0 )

    @telecharge said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    As noted upthread; Only 2 beers in my home town.

    Yes, easy to justify if you look at it individually. It's the cumulative that stings. I've bought a number of apps over the past couple o' weeks. Gotta say no to something, right? Right?!?

    Absolutely. Most of the features of this app are already available on iOS and you probably already own the apps. :)


    [start not directed @telecharge]

    But saying no to something is different than being angry that a two beer app doesn't support feature X, Y or Z. With this 12 dollar investment, someone with skills/vision/motivation can make something great, fully realized and professional sounding, without a doubt. There's quite a lot in this app!

    It is (insert air quotes) missing features and there are some bugs but it is what it is. If what it is isn't what you need, skip it. If you don't think you're getting 12 (or 20) dollars worth of music creation software, you are high on shitty drugs.

    Fully spec'd MPCs, if that's what one needs, are still available at your favorite gear retailer.

    Here's what I'm wondering: if it didn't say "Retronyms" on the package, would this thread look like this? Honestly, think the team at Retronyms needs to look into that and possibly address it.

  • This inside Auria as IAA going through the native Auria version of Turnado + Aurias automation is just lovely. Almost a match made in heaven, can't get tempo info to or from iMPC, so that needs to be set manually before recording (which is no biggie ATM I guess), and haven't figured out how to make Auria start/stop iMPC Pro yet. Anyone else had any luck here?

  • @CalCutta Sorry to leave you hanging. I'm at work(busy), and trying to sneak off and do this at the same time. Bare with me a bit.

  • Oh no rush! I'm at work too, hehe

  • IAA and Audiobus effects sound demo for iMPC Pro. I ran iMPC Pro through AudioShare via IAA in Audiobus and recorded the output without effects, with Final Cut, and finally through both Effectrix and Final Cut. I adjusted the volume so they were the same for all three sections.

  • Currently I kinda love the App even if it doesńt feel completly stable and responsive... Maybe linked to the fact that the app indicates me a constant 95% RAM usage even when i load a simple template after reboiting my ipad air... Does anybody have the same issue ?

  • @syrupcore

    Yes, I agree. I was annoyed by the lack of integration options because of the potential here, but I ended up buying because I definitely have £8 spare and this will give me a great chance to make music in a different way to my usual workflow.

    There is loads of good stuff here and I will have fun for days... Any improvements will be welcome, but I have spent £8 on far less in life and considerably less In the world of iOS! Not managed any sync with Cubasis yet, but audioshare > audiobus works a treat.

    I have not been burnt by Retronyms before, (and have yet to be burnt by IKMultimedia too), so while I appreciate all the feedback about their practices ... I'm just gonna have fun with this for the time being - there is a lot going on to have fun with :)

  • Does anyone know how to export sequences and programs for use in the desktop (MPC Ren./Studio). It appears as if that feature (which worked in the previous iMPC) has been removed!

  • @ElGregoLoco said:

    Currently I kinda love the App even if it doesńt feel completly stable and responsive... Maybe linked to the fact that the app indicates me a constant 95% RAM usage even when i load a simple template after reboiting my ipad air... Does anybody have the same issue ?

    Loading it up in Auria as IAA (with the acoustic template I think it was), Auria did show 100mb RAM free, so there is some wiggle room. How much, depends on how much iOS releases I guess. But it does love the RAM for sure.

  • @ElGregoLoco said:

    Currently I kinda love the App even if it doesńt feel completly stable and responsive... Maybe linked to the fact that the app indicates me a constant 95% RAM usage even when i load a simple template after reboiting my ipad air... Does anybody have the same issue ?

    > > I comment that issue before and maybe is a bug

  • You need to restart your iPad for reset the RAM

  • Force close all apps by dubble tapping the home button and swiping away all open stuff, before you reboot your iPad. Open background apps will apparently still use some resources after a reboot.

  • @ChrisG said:

    Force close all apps by dubble tapping the home button and swiping away all open stuff, before you reboot your iPad. Open background apps will apparently still use some resources after a reboot.

    Sounds like a great urban myth! I also find rebooting with left hand helps too ;)

  • The reset doesnt work tried on ipad air, ipad 2 and mini retina display

  • @skoptic said:

    @ChrisG said:

    Force close all apps by dubble tapping the home button and swiping away all open stuff, before you reboot your iPad. Open background apps will apparently still use some resources after a reboot.

    Sounds like a great urban myth! I also find rebooting with left hand helps too ;)

    Well, I picked it up from Rim (the Auria dev), so I'm gonna go with that :)


    @Aphex Everyone is getting yellow or red bar showing on the RAM at this point. There's nothing wrong with your setup I'd say.

  • @ChrisG said:

    Well, I picked it up from Rim (the Auria dev), so I'm gonna go with that :)

    Fair point! I'll go with that too then :)

  • @ChrisG. Oks thx

  • Hi is anyone having problems when they set loop points on a sample,every time I set the markers for a sample on multiple pads and save.When I load up my track back up their all off.Maybe something I'm doing wrong?

  • As said in my previous post... i already tried to reboot, i think it´s a bug with the RAM meter... i tried to load a bunch if apps simultaneously and the impc pro RAM meter went down lol

  • Yea that's iOS releasing RAM.

    With a bit of maintenance I managed to keep it green while messing around in the app, looksy below! In all seriousness tho, I don't think there's THAT much we can do when using big, complex apps, with lots of samples fighting to fit in the RAM. Other then wait for a device with more RAM. And of course, there's always room for some optimizations. :)

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  • Please do not mention aloud that there will be any more of these devices available for purchase in the future. I made it very clear to the missus upon buying this Air that three iPads would be enough until they carted me off drooling under my special red blanket. I would like a little more time to go by before this bald-faced lie is exposed etc.

  • They need to do a better app, is just not rigth that a kick a snare and a hihat take a lot fo RAM in an ipad air, even the ios synths use that kind of power. So as you said is just a bug a wrong meter, i think that too.

  • I think this is the last music app and hardware upgrade planned, so you're safe @JohnnyGoodyear. I prefer bald face lies to the subversive ones anyways.

  • @Joe said:

    Hi is anyone having problems when they set loop points on a sample,every time I set the markers for a sample on multiple pads and save.When I load up my track back up their all off.Maybe something I'm doing wrong?

    had that problem last night just before turning in. All of the slices were off by different degrees—some started at different times, some were different lengths. I had previously done a chop-to-pads X16 and then edited a few of them manually after chopping.

  • Hmm after playing last night, a few problems cropped up. I had a few crashes, I had a glitch where the sample I had audiopasted in and chopped kept duplicating itself when I hit the chop to pads button. I am also getting the bug where I have to hit buttons multiple times for them to register. I also noticed that when using the variation slider on some hi hats the volume variation didn't work and the filter variation actually adjusts the pitch instead?? Another big gripe (and hopefully I am doing something wrong here!) is that the IAA effects are only sends, so I cannot for example send a bassline through a wow filter and have it not mixed with the dry signal?? I really hope there is a way around this or the IAA fx are pretty useless to me :/

  • How do you delete a seq in song mode. There's no swipe or delete option. For impc pro. Other than that it's really cool and will only get better with updates

  • PHᐃNTᐃSMPHᐃNTᐃSM +1 -1 (+3 / -0 )

    I followed the iMPC Pro Log videos as Retronyms released them, and while iMPC Pro is a slick looking app, I quickly wrote off this app as another collection of missteps by Retronyms.

    This app simply offers nothing that BeatMaker 2 hasn't been offering for a few years now. Yes, the workflow might be more agreeable, but like other Retronyms apps, it has a list of oversights and bugs.

    How on earth does a developer neglect something as simple as being able to delete unneeded recordings/samples made by the user? This is something Tabletop suffers from to this date.

    No Audiobus, buggy IAA, incomplete MIDI, etc. Most of the complaints people have about iMPC Pro in this thread are the same sort of things other Retronyms apps suffer from.

    For the $19.99 regular price, you'd be much better off buying BM2.

  • How do you change the track name while in a sequence,

  • Glad I bought Bm2 while it was on sale, I'd hate to be stuck with just iMPC pro, although I think it sounds excellent, I'm glad I have options.

  • kennyroxkennyrox +1 -1 (+2 / -0 )

    ok i figured out how to erase a sequence.....tap a empty block and slide it over a block that you want to erase....that will clear that seq

  • Thanks @kennyrox. Obvious, of course, but only once you know :) Certainly some rough edges to be knocked off here, but I also made some noise tonight I liked because of the workflow. There are parts of the playing which are very much intuitive. And there there are the other parts that aren't at all. Still, good to take 16 bars into Auria, Turnado them to pieces, and end up with something far beyond the sum of the parts I had in my ears to begin with.

  • I'm loving this app. Really amazing.

  • yes it is awesome....once you dig in...you can get very creative

  • Got it yesterday at the intro price , great fun to play around with - The only major niggle is not being able to delete unwanted samples without connecting to iTunes - I don't own a PC or Mac so what the hell am I supposed to do . Hope this is something that can be fixed soon in an update ,.

  • Guys how do you delete samples from iTunes? I mean certain samples, not all the user dir?

    I have the latest iTunes, and from what I remember, they don't allow anymore to browse through folders. You only see one master folder of the app in iTunes File Sharing.

  • skopticskoptic +1 -1 (+1 / -0 )

    BM2 has good functionality but is designed like a pig. BM2 is not the panacea - amen to 2014 user interface.

  • @alexbuga Don't use iTunes, only use ifunbox. I never ever use iTunes!

  • @syrupcore said:

    @Joe said:

    Hi is anyone having problems when they set loop points on a sample,every time I set the markers for a sample on multiple pads and save.When I load up my track back up their all off.Maybe something I'm doing wrong?

    had that problem last night just before turning in. All of the slices were off by different degrees—some started at different times, some were different lengths. I had previously done a chop-to-pads X16 and then edited a few of them manually after chopping.

    That is a MASSIVE flaw and this issue alone puts me off completely.....does it happen every time? is there a workaround?

  • It is (or could be) indeed a massive bug but I haven't had a chance to look further into it.

  • @skoptic said:

    BM2 has good functionality but is designed like a pig. BM2 is not the panacea - amen to 2014 user interface.

    I didn't think of it as a panacea but now that you've mentioned it...

  • Did anyone compare the sample library of impc pro with the classic?I think I'll wait for Retronyms to fix all the bugs and then buy it...also I'll wait to see if the tabletop version would be a cut down module ,like the classic impc where the fx section was missing...watching every post in this thread!

    I've asked before but it's really important question : Does impc pro worth buying if someone already has beatmaker2?

  • @loopingstar said:

    Got it yesterday at the intro price , great fun to play around with - The only major niggle is not being able to delete unwanted samples without connecting to iTunes - I don't own a PC or Mac so what the hell am I supposed to do . Hope this is something that can be fixed soon in an update ,.

    It will be fixed, the ball has started to roll...

    Even if i do have access to a computer to do the housekeeping i hardly ever connect my iPad or iPhone to it, this might change once iOS 8 and OS X Yosemity arrive because it will enable us to use the iPad/iPhone as audio input source and digitally record the output to Logic Pro X or other apps which will be really sweet :)

  • it's not possible to reverse a sample in real time?

  • @alexbuga said:

    Guys how do you delete samples from iTunes? I mean certain samples, not all the user dir?

    I have the latest iTunes, and from what I remember, they don't allow anymore to browse through folders. You only see one master folder of the app in iTunes File Sharing.

    I'm using iFunBox for this, works really well for housekeeping like copying samples between apps, and adding folders full of samples. (Since i own both iMPC and iMPC Pro i moved all the iMPC samples into iMPC Pro).

    Why iTunes only handle singe files is still a mystery and i hope this will change with OS X Yosemity which i hope will allow us to directly access the shared files in the Finder like iFunBox does.

    If i keep a positive mindset the new iOS8 Filepicker will allow apps that can act as File Repo's and announce the available files to all apps that use the iOS 8 Filepicker, who will be first to implement iOS8 file picker(AudioShare or AudioCopy2)?